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alexshans84
posted: 2012-05-22 10:16:20 (ID: 41713) Report Abuse
I think it could be more simple and even more fair system. Win your division and don't care about your PD or even TD number
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posted: 2012-05-22 10:19:03 (ID: 41715) Report Abuse
alexshans84 wrote:
I think it could be more simple and even more fair system. Win your division and don't care about your PD or even TD number

I think the problem here is, that the amout of divisions depends on the amount of leagues available.

At the end, there should be only 48 teams left for the supercup playoffs, so if there are MORE then 48 divisions, because of growth of managers in this game ... who gets the 48 places?
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alexshans84
posted: 2012-05-22 10:38:19 (ID: 41719) Report Abuse
I suggest this just for the present situation (IMO the number of managers will not reach 750 in next 2-3 seasons)
When this happy moment comes Peter can add 1 third level league for each region and create 64 Supercup divisions. The winners of these divisions could go for the trophy without wildcard round

Last edited on 2012-05-22 10:46:37 by alexshans84

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posted: 2012-05-22 11:01:04 (ID: 41723) Report Abuse
alexshans84 wrote:
I suggest this just for the present situation (IMO the number of managers will not reach 750 in next 2-3 seasons)
When this happy moment comes Peter can add 1 third level league for each region and create 64 Supercup divisions. The winners of these divisions could go for the trophy without wildcard round

Just my personal oppinion here:
The solution should be
- understandable
- sizeable
- playable
- set and done

from my point of view, your solution needs programming affort every time a growth or decrease happens.
The existing solution does all that already and needs no further adjustment.
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Tarjan
posted: 2012-05-22 13:22:31 (ID: 41737) Report Abuse
Except it is against all Sportsmanship ...

IN RL no Sportsman would drive up the Scoreboard.

So as long as the System is how it is, after my first loss i will only play my "second" Depthchart to give mynew guys some TC ...

And yes thats no Sportsmanship too, but the System is how the System is...
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sfniner08
posted: 2012-05-22 15:24:35 (ID: 41757) Report Abuse
I think with MOTY only for regular season that the PD will matter a little less in supercup format. There may be fewer undefeated teams and maybe fewer one loss teams. As such record may play a bigger role than PD. We will have to wait and see though.
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posted: 2012-05-23 07:11:50 (ID: 42014) Report Abuse
Tarjan wrote:
Except it is against all Sportsmanship ...

IN RL no Sportsman would drive up the Scoreboard.

So as long as the System is how it is, after my first loss i will only play my "second" Depthchart to give mynew guys some TC ...

And yes thats no Sportsmanship too, but the System is how the System is...

Sorry, but welcome to the sports reality.
In Football most of the time it does not matter how much points are scored, but sometimes it does.
Bobby Bowden and some other coaches did score often and until the end of the game, because a lesser score would hurt them in the AP25 poll in college Football.

In some other sports the score or the PD is also very important and for sure does a team trying to get the score highest possible, since a score less might result less money income next season.

Yes the System of the superecup is maybe cruel, but it works without adjustments for a lot of teams.
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Lee1950
posted: 2012-05-23 07:23:53 (ID: 42019) Report Abuse
Re: running up the score.

Another on-line football game (one with a round ball) handles this by automatically reducing the effort of a team winning by a large margin. Over there, that's like a 3 goal lead.

RZA could, if enough managers think it's a good idea, shift a team that is up by, for example 28+ points, into "Relaxed" level of effort (but don't change experience gained and physical condition lost). That would reduce some of the blowout scores we see.

Don't know if it's a real problem or not....for me I think the worst part of blowouts is the impact on new managers. A loss by 150+ points could be a bit discouraging.

Last edited on 2012-05-23 07:24:05 by Lee1950

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Spiff
posted: 2012-05-23 08:02:14 (ID: 42027) Report Abuse
Lee1950 wrote:
Re: running up the score.

Another on-line football game (one with a round ball) handles this by automatically reducing the effort of a team winning by a large margin. Over there, that's like a 3 goal lead.

RZA could, if enough managers think it's a good idea, shift a team that is up by, for example 28+ points, into "Relaxed" level of effort (but don't change experience gained and physical condition lost). That would reduce some of the blowout scores we see.

Don't know if it's a real problem or not....for me I think the worst part of blowouts is the impact on new managers. A loss by 150+ points could be a bit discouraging.

I like that suggestion. I would however recommend two minor tweaks:
1) Let each manager decide at what margin in the game his players should go into 'relaxed' mode - both being ahead or being down.
2) In order to give the managers some incentives to not run up the score, reduce the physical condition hit on his players.

Going into relaxed mode will always save you physical condition points but it will cost you morale points because the players don't want to play relaxed.
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Tarjan
posted: 2012-05-23 08:49:52 (ID: 42038) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:

Sorry, but welcome to the sports reality.
In Football most of the time it does not matter how much points are scored, but sometimes it does.
Bobby Bowden and some other coaches did score often and until the end of the game, because a lesser score would hurt them in the AP25 poll in college Football.

In some other sports the score or the PD is also very important and for sure does a team trying to get the score highest possible, since a score less might result less money income next season.

Yes the System of the superecup is maybe cruel, but it works without adjustments for a lot of teams.


Maybe just maybe you got me wrong, i don´t care what others do in that case. I was on both side in RL on the running up the score side and i could tell, you will get it back if you run it up.

If you look at my last game This one do you like to be part on one side or the other?
This game has a huge influence on my Playbook.

If you love to run up the Score just do it. I don´t care, i won´t do it (this game just showed me i got to do something) i am old school in this, and in the older Times if you run up the score - - -> good luck in the next game i know how to hurt you and thats a promise

And btw if it works for a lot of Teams doesn´t necessarily mean that it´s right... Capitalism works for a lot of People but is it Right?

Edit some spelling...

Last edited on 2012-05-23 12:26:58 by Tarjan

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