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hosh13
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posted: 2012-07-31 03:52:31 (ID: 49728) Report Abuse |
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Has there been any speculation about how many seasons it will typically take for a team to get to a point where they will never get a lot better i.e. the effect of rookies coming in and getting trained up = effect of veterans retiring?
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hosh13 wrote:
Has there been any speculation about how many seasons it will typically take for a team to get to a point where they will never get a lot better i.e. the effect of rookies coming in and getting trained up = effect of veterans retiring? I think this will happen after 7-8 seasons. It depends on your financial situation at that point and some other stuff. It will also be the point where keeping high trained veterans will be hard, since their wages will go through the roof. |
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ryandinho
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posted: 2012-07-31 08:31:03 (ID: 49740) Report Abuse |
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I think you have to look at this game in comparison to the real life NFL. How many teams have players that would have 45+ skills in a given category for example. Using the Baltimore Ravens as an example, you could say Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Haloti Ngata, Ray Rice and Terrell Suggs are the 5* players with their skills sitting at 45-50. Below that you have the ones whose skills would be in the high 30's, then the backups in the 20s. There is only so much money to go around so that's why every NFL team can't afford to just load up on huge contracts and why players who underperform on big contracts get released. I think in the next few seasons RZA will be a brilliant reflection of that.
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Lee1950
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posted: 2012-07-31 16:06:14 (ID: 49768) Report Abuse |
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ryandinho wrote:
I think you have to look at this game in comparison to the real life NFL. How many teams have players that would have 45+ skills in a given category for example. Using the Baltimore Ravens as an example, you could say Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Haloti Ngata, Ray Rice and Terrell Suggs are the 5* players with their skills sitting at 45-50. Below that you have the ones whose skills would be in the high 30's, then the backups in the 20s. There is only so much money to go around so that's why every NFL team can't afford to just load up on huge contracts and why players who underperform on big contracts get released. I think in the next few seasons RZA will be a brilliant reflection of that. Great post.  |
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CCILL
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posted: 2012-08-03 16:04:57 (ID: 50023) Report Abuse |
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Except that the NFL has a hard salary cap and limits roster size to 45. Two things missing in RZA. The financials are soon going to be like Hockey Arena in regards to no resemblance to RL reality. I will also add that IMO it is only a matter of time until RZA has its first major cheating scandal due to the major gap between teams in money and talent and the widening gap between them.
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slider6
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posted: 2012-08-03 18:10:49 (ID: 50032) Report Abuse |
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CCILL wrote:
Except that the NFL has a hard salary cap and limits roster size to 53. Two things missing in RZA. The financials are soon going to be like Hockey Arena in regards to no resemblance to RL reality. I will also add that IMO it is only a matter of time until RZA has its first major cheating scandal due to the major gap between teams in money and talent and the widening gap between them. Fixed |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-08-03 18:18:04 (ID: 50033) Report Abuse |
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Of course in the offseason it can now get up to 90. lol
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-08-03 18:20:52 (ID: 50034) Report Abuse |
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In regards to the salary cap. The reason the NFL has one is so championships can't be bought, for parity sake. If it could be done naturally without a salary cap then why create one? There will be a natural salary cap here, and pretty soon looking at some of the salaries in the top 10. The highest salary is 2 million an u p d a t e here. Yikes. Mine is only 300k. In any case, there comes a point where you can't afford to have top players everywhere. For those who doubt, crunch the numbers yourself.
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Lee1950
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posted: 2012-08-03 18:30:05 (ID: 50035) Report Abuse |
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Team income from games is already capped.
- The max you can earn with a league win is ~$8M. - The max for a S-Cup win is ~$4M. Everyone with a fully built stadium will earn the same income. So there is a hard cap on income. (There are always a handful of traders in a game who somehow manage to earn additional income buying and selling players. They can't be accounted for ... and why aren't they making millions in the real world?) Player salaries are going to get ferociously high. Anyone with doubts should check out this guy: Name Kory Odom Scout Level 20 Nationality usa Age 28 Wage $437934 
Don't trust me? Scout him yourself: Scout him yourself 
(I'm not giving away any secret info here - he was recently bought and then dumped, so he's in the free agent pool now...not on any team. I'll just say he is maxed out on Tackling and leave it at that.) 8 Home league games ~$64M 15 S-Cup games ~$60M $128M in "Cap" money. Call it $150M for extra bits here and there. If you have 3 players making $400,000 an update and 10 players averaging $250,000 an update and the other 60+ players making another $2,000,000/update you're paying $1.2M+2.5M+2.0M per update, or $5.7M * 40 updates or $228M in salaries. Then you have other costs - just my coaches run another $80M a season. So I think if you can be patient, you'll discover you do have a hard cap staring at you in a few seasons. (if my math is still any good.....)  |
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CCILL
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posted: 2012-08-03 21:15:52 (ID: 50073) Report Abuse |
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The reason the NFL has a salary cap is because if it didn’t teams like Green Bay would never be able to compete on the levels of the NY, Chicago, and other large market teams. The reason for the 45 man roster was due to George Halas would sign players and keep them in the semi-pro leagues back in the day.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, want to see how roster limits and money [scholarship] restrictions work. Then just look at today’s college football. Northwestern, Boise State and the other former sisters of the weak would NEVER be where they are today if things were still as they were in the 70”s. I recall playing Texas once and they had 110 players on the sidelines and had given out 90 scholarships the year before. Anybody want to go back to that great system? |
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