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bwadders76
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posted: 2012-08-08 19:07:16 (ID: 51060) Report Abuse |
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MTS1972 wrote:
I think half the reason this keeps 'popping up' is that many managers feel it would be beneficial and worth introducing - trading or transfers is, by and large, centric to almost every sport on the planet. There are a lot of good points raised by the 'pros' and the 'cons' of the discussion and there is ALOT of text to review and ideas proposed both in this and other threads. Could i make a suggestion. Pete, if you believe that 'direct trading' between teams is a potential addition to the game in the medium term, subject to agreeable rules etc, then could a Task Team be appointed to go off and come back with a fully discussed, analysed and considered proposal as to how this would work. I would suggest the Task Team be no more than 6 personnel with an overall coordinator to bring everything together and submit the eventual proposal, initially, to yourself. If you read this and find it by and large agreeable, it can be presented to the forum for those who are inclined to do so to try and break it - without resorting to personal attacks, making points that are based on substance not just air, dont give 'extreme examples' to try and ridicule it and hopefully offer constructive criticism. If alls good, then it goes on to the To Do list. If not, or it is summarily rejected by Pete at any stage, its canned and we move on. Its the only way i see this coming to any kind of head for either progress or canning once and for all. Big girly swat. Have you brought Pete an apple in as well 
Other than its come from my local rival with a dodgy derby accent the rest is a good idea. |
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| posted: 2012-08-08 19:13:14 (ID: 51062) Report Abuse | |
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MTS1972 wrote:
I think half the reason this keeps 'popping up' is that many managers feel it would be beneficial and worth introducing - trading or transfers is, by and large, centric to almost every sport on the planet. There are a lot of good points raised by the 'pros' and the 'cons' of the discussion and there is ALOT of text to review and ideas proposed both in this and other threads. Could i make a suggestion. Pete, if you believe that 'direct trading' between teams is a potential addition to the game in the medium term, subject to agreeable rules etc, then could a Task Team be appointed to go off and come back with a fully discussed, analysed and considered proposal as to how this would work. I would suggest the Task Team be no more than 6 personnel with an overall coordinator to bring everything together and submit the eventual proposal, initially, to yourself. If you read this and find it by and large agreeable, it can be presented to the forum for those who are inclined to do so to try and break it - without resorting to personal attacks, making points that are based on substance not just air, dont give 'extreme examples' to try and ridicule it and hopefully offer constructive criticism. If alls good, then it goes on to the To Do list. If not, or it is summarily rejected by Pete at any stage, its canned and we move on. Its the only way i see this coming to any kind of head for either progress or canning once and for all. We have such a group, it is called BoA... |
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| posted: 2012-08-08 19:21:35 (ID: 51063) Report Abuse | |
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http://redzoneaction.org/football/index.php?page=community&subpage=thread&thread_id=1470
Have a read here. This describes a function that is ready to use on the testserver, and with some small adjustments I could think of putting it online. It deals somehow with cheating, there is a review option for managers out of both the source and the target league of such a transfer, including vetos |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-08-08 19:26:38 (ID: 51064) Report Abuse |
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MTS1972 wrote:
I think half the reason this keeps 'popping up' is that many managers feel it would be beneficial and worth introducing - trading or transfers is, by and large, centric to almost every sport on the planet. It is inetersting to think about this a little. Now - TM. If players A and B have players the other want (inxs) then they could make the players they need available on the TM and buy each others players for the same amount (possibly). But this is unlikely because neither might want to sell good players without the guarantee of getting a good player in return for the position they're weak at. The fact that players can normally change positions easily makes this situation a little less daunting but probably not enough. So this is what trades fix. Less excess in the DC and stronger alround rosters. |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-08-08 19:29:13 (ID: 51065) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
It deals somehow with cheating, there is a review option for managers out of both the source and the target league of such a transfer, including vetos  This is too open to bias.
And I think an automated process is the only long term solution anyway. Why can't this "veto" process be a computer program? |
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| posted: 2012-08-08 19:31:08 (ID: 51067) Report Abuse | |
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how the heck a computer could do the veto?
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JonnyP
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posted: 2012-08-08 19:33:29 (ID: 51068) Report Abuse |
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A quick question...
Do people keep suggesting the introduction of trading because it is in real american football? Or do they genuinely think it will improve the gameplay in RZA? And don't most real trades usually involve the trading of picks, something that is probably not workable here? |
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| posted: 2012-08-08 19:38:56 (ID: 51069) Report Abuse | |
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I can't answer this, I just read a suggestion about trading every 3 minutes...
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MTS1972
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posted: 2012-08-08 19:40:21 (ID: 51070) Report Abuse |
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JonnyP wrote:
A quick question... Do people keep suggesting the introduction of trading because it is in real american football? Or do they genuinely think it will improve the gameplay in RZA? And don't most real trades usually involve the trading of picks, something that is probably not workable here? my personal opinion, and why ive also brought it up before as to something id like to see (though i do see and acknowledge the counter arguments) is that the current TM is far too restrictive. Direct trading would allow better squad management, allow newer teams the ability to potentially get developed and competative quicker, and encourage more interaction between managers - maybe not the most important deal in the world, but something that can add to the enjoyment and longevity of it - which IMO can ONLY be to the benefit of the game overall. |
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Nogard
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posted: 2012-08-08 19:52:32 (ID: 51073) Report Abuse |
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Without the cheating-discussion. The big problem for me are the non expierienced new managers.
At the moment new managers couldn´t pay too much money on the transfermarket because they haven´t that much at the beginning. But if you can trade players you could do this on your first day in RZA without expierience. But if you are new you mostly don´t know much about the right skills, the caps and so on. So it is easy to make a disadvantage trade as newbie. We also shouldn´t forbit newbies a trade. I think this would be unfair. The system with the scouting of a player and than decide if you would make the trade is also a big disadvantage for newbies because they only have a level 1 scout. there was a point system suggestion some time ago. I think this could be a way for allowing trades. |
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