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| posted: 2012-08-16 07:46:30 (ID: 52626) Report Abuse | |
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What is this G*I?
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sh8888
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posted: 2012-08-16 07:57:19 (ID: 52627) Report Abuse |
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Solana_Steve wrote:
What is this G*I? Steve SD Blitz I don't know for sure, but it might be quite an easy game .... the guy who won the Iron Bowl there last season has quite an ageing team with a TE who is almost of pensionable age , and he's not been in the transfer market to replenish the team. I worry for that guy, maybe his Dynasty is about to start crashing around his ears ?  |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-08-16 08:32:45 (ID: 52634) Report Abuse |
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sh8888 wrote:
hosh13 wrote:
Anyway, since Agility is a part of physicals, I'd guess it effects all but punters and kickers - or might it even effect them? I'd guess .... sums it up nicely. I'd prefer not to guess Yeah, I have to take that back I suppose since it seems speed counts little or maybe nothing for OL and DT/NTs. It seems Strength and Vision are the only universals. Positioning would be if not for P, K, and QBs. |
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sh8888
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posted: 2012-08-16 08:39:40 (ID: 52635) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
Yeah, I have to take that back I suppose since it seems speed counts little or maybe nothing for OL and DT/NTs. It seems Strength and Vision are the only universals. Positioning would be if not for P, K, and QBs. Are you sure about Strength being a universal ? If you look at the Draft averages for a KR, Strength is painfully low. I'm not saying that the Draft Averages should be taken as the ultimate guide, but if the Draft averages for KR strength are approx 23 then maybe Strength is far from the top of the agenda for that position ? |
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posted: 2012-08-16 08:52:47 (ID: 52636) Report Abuse |
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My latest philosophy -
Agility is the opposite of Tackling/blocking. Since only DL get blocked, you train the DL on Ag and the rest of the D on positioning, with all getting plenty of tackling, footwork and vision. Then the DT/NTs get positioning as well instead of speed. So it seems DEs are the most skill intensive - all 3 physicals + tackling, footwork, vis, positioning. 7 skills - is that possible? And TE - same but instead of tackling we have blocking, catch and carry - 9 skills? Last edited on 2012-08-16 09:03:52 by hosh13 |
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posted: 2012-08-16 08:58:05 (ID: 52637) Report Abuse |
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sh8888 wrote:
If you look at the Draft averages for a KR, Strength is painfully low. I'm not saying that the Draft Averages should be taken as the ultimate guide, but if the Draft averages for KR strength are approx 23 then maybe Strength is far from the top of the agenda for that position ? Well the present situation with returns is very basic so it wouldn't surprise me. I don't really count KR or G as positions anyway. Btw, strength for QB, P and K should be arm and leg specific - here comes another pos-exp debate!  Last edited on 2012-08-16 09:03:02 by hosh13 |
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posted: 2012-08-16 09:06:10 (ID: 52640) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
It seems Strength and Vision are the only universals. Positioning would be if not for P, K, and QBs. Positioning and Vision are the universals IMO, excluding K and P. QB needs POS at least when he carries football |
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sh8888
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posted: 2012-08-16 12:26:13 (ID: 52655) Report Abuse |
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Ranagol wrote:
You might want evidence sh8888 to prove that agility is part of the OL skillset, and rightly so, but I don't think the game is quite in that stage yet where people are satisfied with their OLine and the only thing left to train is agility. Maybe then we can have a more meaningful discussion about this, but for now it's yet another one of those threads where we can all speculate, and wait for Peter to drop another riddle to f**k with our brains.  You'd be surprised, occasionally I have a trawl through the dreaded TM and some of the player builds never cease to amaze me. There are 500/600 managers out there and they've each got a slightly different take on how they want to build/train players. Just check one or two of the threads on weirdly-trained players and one-skillers, there are undoubtedly many vastly different player builds out there ..... that's why it amused me when managers prophesied about the imminent emergence of 'cookie-cutter' player builds (btw ... 'cookie-cutter' must rate as one of the worst ever words/phrases  ... hate it...it's soooo american).
Maybe if I eventually manage to scout some of the OL's with polar-opposite builds, perhaps then it would be possible to make some serious headway regarding Agility vs O-Line. |
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posted: 2012-08-16 16:50:02 (ID: 52669) Report Abuse |
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sh8888 wrote:
... 'cookie-cutter' must rate as one of the worst ever words/phrases ... hate it...it's soooo american ...
I like pie? ...and really, I mean come on... who doesn't like cookies!?! |
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posted: 2012-08-16 17:28:59 (ID: 52677) Report Abuse |
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alexshans84 wrote:
hosh13 wrote:
It seems Strength and Vision are the only universals. Positioning would be if not for P, K, and QBs. Positioning and Vision are the universals IMO, excluding K and P. QB needs POS at least when he carries football You could argue a case for it anyway because if his positioning is painfully low he might stand behind the TE for a snap. |
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