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Swordpriest1
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posted: 2012-08-17 20:19:10 (ID: 52845) Report Abuse |
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Ranagol wrote:
Swordpriest1 wrote:
Only real wild card about your way of playing is its still too early to predict just how the TM will treat players once we all start to plateau. The thing is once we hit this "salary cap" the newer managers will take over our place on the TM. Simple as that. So I don't really see the TM calming down at all, ever. Once draft type players become your avarage joe, those with a couple of seasons training behind them (capped high physicals, main skill 30+) will take their place as the TM record breakers. The only way for us to make money at that point will be to sell our superstars, so maybe SF is onto something by thinking of selling his LB. I hear ya.. but at some point the influx of draft players in the TM will have to level out the amount people will bid on a player right? Scarcity drives the mark here I would think so it make sense for multiple managers to bid on a superstar player if thats all thats out there but you inject 10+ draft players within a Transfer window.. thats a different TM game. But yes new managers could come and maintain the status quo.. I do concede that point. |
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sh8888
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posted: 2012-08-17 20:30:57 (ID: 52846) Report Abuse |
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Swordpriest1 wrote:
I hear ya.. but at some point the influx of draft players in the TM will have to level out the amount people will bid on a player right? Scarcity drives the mark here I would think so it make sense for multiple managers to bid on a superstar player if thats all thats out there but you inject 10+ draft players within a Transfer window.. thats a different TM game. But yes new managers could come and maintain the status quo.. I do concede that point. There is probably more cash sat in the bank for established teams than people think. One of the established teams in my division recently splashed $100 Million + on a Draftee, but when I looked at his Transfer History .... he'd not really spent much at all and has been in the game since September..... that tells me that he's probably got plenty of financial firepower left. I think he's not alone, there are quite a few managers that are just quietly going about their business and have accumulated a substantial cash pile ... I'm not saying everybody is going to start spending like there's no tomorrow , but I am saying that there is still plenty of cash around .... from established teams and also from newer teams who can save at a quicker rate if they don't have expensive things to pay for such as coaches, for example. |
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sfniner08 wrote:
pure capitalism is dangerous. 
Even it is offtopic, it is true |
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Ranagol
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posted: 2012-08-17 20:53:32 (ID: 52849) Report Abuse |
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Swordpriest1 wrote:
...but you inject 10+ draft players within a Transfer window.. thats a different TM game. That's true, but the ammount of managers (hopefully) keep increasing too, not just the ammount of draft players. Plus isn't multiple max bidding still possible on the TM? Like making a bid for all your money on one player then doing the same for another, not taking into account what could happen if you'd win both players (you'd be deep in the red that's what!) Then just sell the worst of the 2 players and you're back in the green. Worst case scenario you get fined 5% on the next u p d a t e , but probably not twice since it only takes 3 days to sell a player. |
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canonico
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posted: 2012-08-17 21:29:28 (ID: 52852) Report Abuse |
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canonico wrote:
My newbie opinion on this matter would be to not sell this player, unless you were in a financial trouble. Until then I wouldn't sell such a powerfull weapon to another manager, and a player you clearly have put some work and thought on in building him up. Here is a small and simple conversion of the skills you shared with us, and how they match when compared to the Max each skill can reach. I don't know what to call it so i placed it under EL/ESR Which means Effective Level/Effective Skill Rating. Aldo the only real way of knowing his ESR would be when compared to every other LB in his league. But that can't be achieved so it's only comparing with the max that each skill can give and where he rates to that.  Source: http://i49.tinypic.com/30llbwg.jpg Forgot to add, that his average points ditribuited for those 8 skills is 36.2, with an ESR/EL of 72.5%! That 36.2 is going to cost you millions in salary, but that Cat is well worth it if you can afford it. |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-08-17 21:43:16 (ID: 52854) Report Abuse |
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How did you do that with the stats? It would be cool if I could do that with my DL and LB who are also very good!
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canonico
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posted: 2012-08-17 21:53:51 (ID: 52855) Report Abuse |
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sfniner08 wrote:
How did you do that with the stats? It would be cool if I could do that with my DL and LB who are also very good! Simple math anyone can do it: 50 intelligence. 50/50 = 100% 34 tw - 34/50 =68% 42 strength capped - 42/50 = 84% 48 speed capped - 48/50 = 96% 28 positioning - 28/50 = 56% 33.7 vision - 33.7/50 = 67.4% 39.6 tackle - 39.6/50 = 79.2% 15 agility - 15/50 =30% You just divide the points your player has in each skill and divide by the maximum they can have in them. Which is in this case 50. If it was Team Chemistry it would be divided by 100. Then to find the overall rating average, of this skills I simply added them all up, then divided by their total number which is 8, and that's that. Same for the ESR/EL thing, added the percentages and then divided by 8, the end result is the overall avg. Then placed the numbers on a line chart to better explain. You can find severall free websites that generate graphs. Quite simple. |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-08-17 22:32:13 (ID: 52861) Report Abuse |
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My other 3 lb's are 72.475, 65.425, and 65.75. It is fun to play, but I don't know to what degree I'd use such numbers.
canonico wrote:
canonico wrote:
My newbie opinion on this matter would be to not sell this player, unless you were in a financial trouble. Until then I wouldn't sell such a powerfull weapon to another manager, and a player you clearly have put some work and thought on in building him up. Here is a small and simple conversion of the skills you shared with us, and how they match when compared to the Max each skill can reach. I don't know what to call it so i placed it under EL/ESR Which means Effective Level/Effective Skill Rating. Aldo the only real way of knowing his ESR would be when compared to every other LB in his league. But that can't be achieved so it's only comparing with the max that each skill can give and where he rates to that. Source: http://i49.tinypic.com/30llbwg.jpg Forgot to add, that his average points ditribuited for those 8 skills is 36.2, with an ESR/EL of 72.5%! That 36.2 is going to cost you millions in salary, but that Cat is well worth it if you can afford it. |
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canonico
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posted: 2012-08-17 23:17:25 (ID: 52862) Report Abuse |
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Yeah its good fun, and you are only giving us the overall value of each player Percentage based . The most important would be the overall average in Skills aldo I can deduce by those Percentages that aldo two of them are slightly behind in training (Or very dumb and or with lack of TW) the other is actualy very close in terms of points invested or trained as the one you presented to us in the OP. But that's for you to know, if others want to know let them scout.
Any way you put it, having 72% based on those skills you posted your LB's cuore is preety impressive. Overall divided by the 4 LB's they have 69% of ESR/EL rating. Not trying to compare my team that can't really be compared to yours because of the time your team as on mine but just comparing the top 4 LB's of my team with yours: My tope 4 LB's ESR/EL rating 49.8%, 49.6%, 43.5%, 47.3% for a overal rating of my top 4 LB's of 47.5%. Now you can see the huge gap between my LB's and the ones you have playing for your team. I can simply tel you that the overall skill set average of my best LB is 24.9 agaisnt your 36.2. This mathematical exercise can be used when doing comparissons, beeing among your players or with others. It's accuracy depends on what you are comparing, when comparing same position players this is useful in my opinion. |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-08-17 23:52:14 (ID: 52863) Report Abuse |
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Since I have them uploaded in Textats spread sheet anyway the totals are there for the skills that IMO impact the position. So I just divided them up and *2...this is my starters scores
QB 65 Draft RB 55 RB 52 FB 51 TE 44 TE 38 WR 63 Draft WR 47 WR 43 OL 56 Draft OL 52 Draft Converted from FB OL 48 Draft Converted from FB OL 46 OL 46 DE 65 Draft DT 64 Draft DT 51 NT 54 DE 53 Draft OLB 65 Draft MLB 72 Draft OLB 72 Draft CB 49 CB 43 SF 50 Draft SF 47 Draft converted from gunner What it does help to tell me is where I am weaker. Offense is my weak point. My secondary needs work for sure. |
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