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sh8888
posted: 2012-09-04 12:34:04 (ID: 55192) Report Abuse
I like the SuperCup in many ways , I always compare it to the Regional Cup in G*I ....... and the SC wins hands down in almost every aspect , but I think the one big problem with the SC is the numbers .... it just doesn't quite add up....... (keep reading to see why ! )

There are currently 645 Human Managers (notice that I didn't say 'Active' Managers ) .........

so ... as only 48 Teams qualify, this means that 645 - 48 = 597 teams don't qualify ...... i.e. 597/645 * 100 = 92.5% of Teams will not Qualify. (Admin will no doubt reply ... "That's the way it should be" ).

But those numbers mean that there is little motivation in the SC for a number of smaller/medium Teams ..... imagine getting drawn in a SC group with Turtle, JonnyP, Panoramix, Notsch etc .... for most teams this would mean you can immediately see that you're going home early.

So, what's the solution ?

Difficult....... but at the moment, the solution that I still favour is the "48 Teams qualify for a 'Repechage' Tournament' ..... see This Post




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posted: 2012-09-04 12:42:28 (ID: 55197) Report Abuse
That's the way it should be

The supercup is much worse than you are telling...

Only 1 out of these 645 humans is able to win...I say: we change the format to have 645 winners...who wants his trophy...next pls...queue on this side pls...




Sorry, I couldn't resist!
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sh8888
posted: 2012-09-04 12:46:34 (ID: 55200) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
That's the way it should be

The supercup is much worse than you are telling...

Only 1 out of these 645 humans is able to win...I say: we change the format to have 645 winners...who wants his trophy...next pls...queue on this side pls...




Sorry, I couldn't resist!


That's the problem with just having 'one' of something .........

It's like just having one Admin
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Tarjan
posted: 2012-09-04 12:47:34 (ID: 55202) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
That's the way it should be

The supercup is much worse than you are telling...

Only 1 out of these 645 humans is able to win...I say: we change the format to have 645 winners...who wants his trophy...next pls...queue on this side pls...




Sorry, I couldn't resist!


discussion not wanted i am out...
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posted: 2012-09-04 12:54:35 (ID: 55205) Report Abuse
Tarjan wrote:

discussion not wanted i am out...


That's your decision then...However. What is the reason to change it?

Current format:
Pro:
can grow with the userbase
is stable in terms of finances
the winner can be proud, since it is damn hard to win it

Con:
some feel it is too hard to get into the KO-round...

Now compare with other ideas pls - and this is not meant to be arrogant, sarcastic or whatever...
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sh8888
posted: 2012-09-04 13:00:04 (ID: 55207) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
What is the reason to change it?

Current format:
Pro:
can grow with the userbase
is stable in terms of finances
the winner can be proud, since it is damn hard to win it

Con:
some feel it is too hard to get into the KO-round...

Now compare with other ideas pls - and this is not meant to be arrogant, sarcastic or whatever...


This idea .... wouldn't really affect the 'main' competition as it is a 'repechage' , but it would give Teams something to 'aim for' i.e. the next 48 places.

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posted: 2012-09-04 13:09:21 (ID: 55210) Report Abuse
sh8888 wrote:
pete wrote:
What is the reason to change it?

Current format:
Pro:
can grow with the userbase
is stable in terms of finances
the winner can be proud, since it is damn hard to win it

Con:
some feel it is too hard to get into the KO-round...

Now compare with other ideas pls - and this is not meant to be arrogant, sarcastic or whatever...


This idea .... wouldn't really affect the 'main' competition as it is a 'repechage' , but it would give Teams something to 'aim for' i.e. the next 48 places.



Maybe we should not just exchange links, maybe you could try to create such a pr/con list as I did for the current format. This makes it more comparable
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hosh13
posted: 2012-09-04 13:15:17 (ID: 55211) Report Abuse
How about prize money from positions 1-15?

Maybe $100k for every position - so $1.5 Million to the winner?
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posted: 2012-09-04 13:44:30 (ID: 55213) Report Abuse
hosh13 wrote:
How about prize money from positions 1-15?

Maybe $100k for every position - so $1.5 Million to the winner?

There is plenty of money in the game, so I think the reward should be something different.
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bwadders76
posted: 2012-09-04 20:31:12 (ID: 55271) Report Abuse
hosh13 wrote:
What might not be too bad is to have a few SC divisions where there are only some of the better div 2 teams?

Maybe such divisions could be made up out of the previous years League post season teams? And a team could nominate themself for inclusion or not.

That sort of makes it a little similar to CofC. i.e. that some of the better div 2 teams get to the post season.


Its a cup for all and all should enter.

I saw an earlier post where a team would can a season for an easier draw but would that not then mean when they win the group the next season they get a more difficult draw again.

Maybe either expand it so the top 4 qualify or you could have a "shadow" cup so more teams can get out of their group.

At the moment you could end up in a group with a few decent sides where you cant rack up the scores required to qualify should you lose 1 game even if you win your group

Last edited on 2012-09-04 20:34:38 by bwadders76

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