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MTS1972
posted: 2012-09-10 13:03:23 (ID: 56065) Report Abuse
Performance of the week (and yes im totally biased - but this time justifiably so!) HAS to go to the Washington Redskins and their amazing 40-33 win at the Saints.

Robert Griffin III lived up to and surpassed all expectations with a near flawless performance, whilst Andrew Luck, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weedon and other rookie QBs all struggled and lost their NFL openers - Washington putting 40 points on the board for the first time since god knows when - it took about 4 games for us to score 40 points cumulatively last season - but the offense looked seriously potent, Alfred Morris (another rookie) looks like a serious North/South running back and for once our WR corps looked deadly.

The Redskins D did yield 33 points to probably the most potent O in the NFL, but was again very stout and made some big plays - im not getting too carried away on the back of this 1 win, but watch the Skins live next Sunday night - if they look as good against the Rams, who scared the death out of the Lions, then i would seriously advise you to get some money on them at the bookies whilst the 80s and 66s are still around!

Elsewhere, i have to say fair play to the Broncos, who looked good in stuffing the Steelers - and the 49ers showed they are genuine SB contenders in beating the much vaunted Packers - though they will surely still be the team to beat come December/January.

The Patriots looked good on both sides of the ball, whilst the Bears beat up what is still a poor Colts team. The Falcons, as predicted, look a serious team (especially from a Fantasy perspective) whilst the Jets D showed they are still a unit to be respected - as much as the Bills O and Ryan Fitzpatrick showed they arent in getting a walloping.

Of the rest, serious cause for concern in Philadelphia and Detriot - as ugly wins as you can possibly get, although the Rams didnt look a bad unit to be fair - and was good to see AP back to full fitness for Minnesota.

But all the headlines from week one will be about RGIII..and rightly so!

All together now....Hail to the Redskins.....Hail Victory....Braves on the Warpath....Fight for old DC!!!!!!!!
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CodeDog
posted: 2012-09-12 02:22:58 (ID: 56362) Report Abuse
As a Dallas Cowboys fan, I must say I think we should be more concerned with RgIII then M.Vick. RGIII looked great, it's hard to believe that this was his first start. He looked very poised and in control of his offense. Here lately I've been hating on the Giants and Eagles but maybe RGIII will bring back some of my hatred for the Redskins
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MTS1972
posted: 2012-09-12 06:28:04 (ID: 56373) Report Abuse
CodeDog wrote:
As a Dallas Cowboys fan, I must say I think we should be more concerned with RgIII then M.Vick. RGIII looked great, it's hard to believe that this was his first start. He looked very poised and in control of his offense. Here lately I've been hating on the Giants and Eagles but maybe RGIII will bring back some of my hatred for the Redskins


we have never lost our hatred of you!!!!

not you personally...just your despicable team!
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TombKing
posted: 2012-09-12 07:51:00 (ID: 56379) Report Abuse
CodeDog wrote:
...we should be more concerned with RgIII then M.Vick...


Was there ever a reason to be truly concerned about Vick? I mean, except for the team he was/is playing for.
Vick just doesn't play the position smart. Too many injuries, and he's got a bad habit for the costly turnover (4 INT the last game? C'mon, man!)
I didn't buy into the RGIII-hype before the season, and I'm still not sold on him. After all, it was just the first game of the season.
But he played a good game, and the play-calling helped that a lot.
What I really liked was, that he did an excellent job to escape the pressure, and not taking off for a run, but finding the open receiver. That is something, Vick never really learned.
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MTS1972
posted: 2012-09-12 09:33:32 (ID: 56386) Report Abuse
TombKing wrote:
CodeDog wrote:
...we should be more concerned with RgIII then M.Vick...


Was there ever a reason to be truly concerned about Vick? I mean, except for the team he was/is playing for.
Vick just doesn't play the position smart. Too many injuries, and he's got a bad habit for the costly turnover (4 INT the last game? C'mon, man!)
I didn't buy into the RGIII-hype before the season, and I'm still not sold on him. After all, it was just the first game of the season.
But he played a good game, and the play-calling helped that a lot.
What I really liked was, that he did an excellent job to escape the pressure, and not taking off for a run, but finding the open receiver. That is something, Vick never really learned.


First : RGIII

What does the guy have to do to 'sell himself' to you?

Granted - 1 game - first game - but this was some game to go 19/26 for 320 yards, 2 TDS, ZERO PICKS, run for 42 yards on 10 carries, and make almost faultless decisions all games against one of the premier units in the NFL - in their own backyard.

Lets make no excuses here - RGIII was brought in to be THE saviour of the Redskins. Andrew Luck is being given time in the transitional Colts - Tannehill & Weedon combined dont have the expectations on their shoulders that RGIII does. The guy lead this team - he didnt just hand off the ball or threw a few screens that went for 90 yards to inflate his figures.

The guy cannot have done more - and even if he isnt as productive over the next few weeks against lesser opponents, that one game alone is enough to show that this guy is the real deal. He has his career game under his belt already.

Mike Vick :

True he is a shadow of his former self - but lets not forget this guy almost revolutionized the QB position at Atlanta, leading very much teams to the Wildcat formation and at times the guy was simply unstoppable.

Nowadays he is more the norm than the exception and yes he looked poor against the Browns - but there will be times this season when he makes teams and defenses look stupid - and i for one would much rather the Redskins D face up to Romo or Manning than Vick. If he can stay healthy (big if i agree) the Eagles take the NFC East with quite some ease IMO.
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cantalupe
posted: 2012-09-12 09:54:50 (ID: 56390) Report Abuse
I'm not "sold" on RG3 as well. He played a spectacular first game and it was painful to watch him, as I'm a Saints fan. But we have to take two things into consideration, the first is poor play from our secondary that looks like Swiss cheese at the moment while the second is the element of surprise. I'm looking forward to the STL-WAS game as I deem the Rams secondary as a quite good one and they'll have some tape to work on.

Tough if he manages to beat the Rams secondary as well I'll probably become a RG3 hater because he'd beat my two favourite teams in his first two NFL starts.
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MTS1972
posted: 2012-09-12 12:32:18 (ID: 56424) Report Abuse
cantalupe wrote:
while the second is the element of surprise.


Are you honestly telling me the Saints were caught short with what RGIII is all about and didnt know what to expect??

This isnt some punk kid the Skins have brought in off the streets who no one has heard of!

What was a surprise was the level of maturity that RGIII showed and his decision making - when flushed out of the pocket he didnt try and scramble all the time - he took some hits, he didnt force throws into coverage, he checked down his receivers and his poise and balance were awesome

This is his first NFL start - but not his first game. The Saints are no slouches on Defense either by the way - i think what did rock them (more than RGIII) was the power North/South running of Alfred Morris (all signs were pointing to Royster or Helu) but Morris' emergence gave the Skins Offense that balance they have been craving for since probably the days of Theismann and Riggins. OK - its early to compare them, but my point is that the Skins have always had an offense one way or the other - for once, we had harmony and i think it was more that that shredded the Saints than purely RGIII.

If he blows out against the Rams does that make him a one game wonder? Not at all. The point is that he has done it. Do it once you can repeat it. But until you do it, there will be the question mark if you can ever do it at all.
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JonnyP
posted: 2012-09-12 13:32:58 (ID: 56432) Report Abuse
Eagles fan chiming in...

After all the fanfares of last season, 'dream team' etc, followed by the excuses that they had not had the time to perfect a difficult playbook due to the holdouts, I'm more than a little disappointed by the fact they have such difficulty against a dreadful teams of rookies.

Yes, Vick may be a little rusty after not having taken many snaps in the pre-season, but to my ears these are just more excuses. They've had time, they have stars, they have very few changes in key personnel, so they SHOULD be ready.
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MTS1972
posted: 2012-09-12 15:19:41 (ID: 56451) Report Abuse
JonnyP wrote:
Eagles fan chiming in...

After all the fanfares of last season, 'dream team' etc, followed by the excuses that they had not had the time to perfect a difficult playbook due to the holdouts, I'm more than a little disappointed by the fact they have such difficulty against a dreadful teams of rookies.

Yes, Vick may be a little rusty after not having taken many snaps in the pre-season, but to my ears these are just more excuses. They've had time, they have stars, they have very few changes in key personnel, so they SHOULD be ready.


they got the win - its all you need to take from week 1 and the knowledge that they CANT be that bad again!
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cantalupe
posted: 2012-09-12 19:39:47 (ID: 56495) Report Abuse
@MTS

Yes. They may have known his astonishing potential and ability in passing, keeping the play alive and scrambling when necessary, but what they didn't know, is what the Skins game plan will be like. You don't get that by watching college games or preseason games.

The Saints D performed horribly in that game(like it did last year), a lot of blown coverages, inability to stop the run, lack of good CB, indiscipline and on top of it all it seems that we still have some Gregg Williams hangover as the amount of safety blitz was still quite high.
I want to see him play against a good D, because this was not it, I want to see how he performs against a D, that will make his life hard, because this looked like a walk in the park.
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