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hosh13
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posted: 2012-09-19 08:50:44 (ID: 57571) Report Abuse |
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1/ Rename moty to BBE - "ball busting effort" and allow it to be used any time. Or maybe allow it only to be used in leagues in the final 6 games and only by teams that might or might not make the playoffs.
2/ Allow the other team to have an auto-responder. If the other team is in moty mode then they could have 3 options in auto-response - nothing, partial and full. "Full" is the same as moty and "Partial" could be half the boost with 1/4 the PC hit. Now that's what I'd like to see. I am happy for there to be a potential "try too hard" penalty as well - so maybe 98-105%. Maybe any team that goes moty should also have an increased chance of injuries at the next training - or is the PC hit sufficient? Last edited on 2012-09-19 08:51:14 by hosh13 |
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sh8888
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posted: 2012-09-19 08:53:14 (ID: 57572) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
1/ Rename moty to BBE - "ball busting effort" and allow it to be used any time. Or maybe allow it only to be used in leagues in the final 6 games and only by teams that might or might not make the playoffs. Ahhh , sounds like 'serious teams' to me ..... and we all remember how popular that one was when originally suggested  |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-09-19 09:03:26 (ID: 57576) Report Abuse |
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sh8888 wrote:
hosh13 wrote:
1/ Rename moty to BBE - "ball busting effort" and allow it to be used any time. Or maybe allow it only to be used in leagues in the final 6 games and only by teams that might or might not make the playoffs. Ahhh , sounds like 'serious teams' to me ..... and we all remember how popular that one was when originally suggested No, nothing to do with it. Read it again. There is only a point to using moty for teams that may or may not make the playoffs. If you are definitely in or out then why would you use it? You might want to do moty to get the 1 or 2 spot in your conference I suppose - but I wouldn't. |
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sh8888
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posted: 2012-09-19 09:11:06 (ID: 57579) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
No, nothing to do with it. Read it again. There is only a point to using moty for teams that may or may not make the playoffs. If you are definitely in or out then why would you use it? You might want to do moty to get the 1 or 2 spot in your conference I suppose - but I wouldn't. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried ! (or perhaps you were trying  ).
The whole idea re MOTY is that each Manager uses it for their own purpose ..... to beat a Divisional rival, to beat a Conference rival, to avoid Relegation, to get in the Playoffs, to win a game that they might not otherwise win .......... even to disrupt another Manager because they don't like him. Every Manager can use/abuse MOTY however they want .... there are no rules/restrictions. |
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Tarjan
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posted: 2012-09-19 09:33:02 (ID: 57586) Report Abuse |
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MOTY is just there to have another excel sheed for me to recorgnize who used it it against me and why he/she did it.
I will find a way to come back to this... (use relaxed in the right games hurt more people than using moty )
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-09-19 09:34:39 (ID: 57587) Report Abuse |
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sh8888 wrote:
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried ! (or perhaps you were trying ).
The whole idea re MOTY is that each Manager uses it for their own purpose ..... to beat a Divisional rival, to beat a Conference rival, to avoid Relegation, to get in the Playoffs, to win a game that they might not otherwise win .......... even to disrupt another Manager because they don't like him. Every Manager can use/abuse MOTY however they want .... there are no rules/restrictions. You seem too focused on the lunatic fringe imo!
If I was facing relegation then I'd be happy to be relegated and would not want to retard my training anymore with a moty. Last edited on 2012-09-19 09:36:16 by hosh13 |
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JeremiahK
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posted: 2012-09-20 07:45:48 (ID: 57767) Report Abuse |
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No. QB's under 6 foot almost never get an even chance at NFL level sh8888.
The only notable midget the league has ever had in the modern era is Doug Flutie never totally accepted in Chicago or New England and royally screwed by Buffalo ownership for that chump Rob Johnson with perfect tangibles and no heart. Drew Brees is borderline titchy and he got screwed in a way by San Diego once he got injured and Miami let him slip away and have paid for it ever since. If he was 6' 4" would be a whole different story. He however has become one of the greats despite his disability because he plays for a coach who looked past the numbers and saw something special. Anyway...... What is exactly broken with MOTY anyway??? How the hell is it an abuse when every single player gets an equal number of times to use it (ONCE) and it has the same effect given it's small randomness on a teams play. your first four reasons sh888 are very valid reasons to use MOTY as I did last year to make the playoffs. the last 2 are ??????? "win a match they otherwise would not win" yeah outright underdogs never rise above for surprising wins in real life. "disrupt another manager" Umm how exactly. Losing a game might put a crimp in anyones day. This one takes the biscuit as probably the pettiest reason against MOTY that I have read. Yes I'd be quite happy to fire my team up to win a meaningless game if my arch enemy was on the receiving end and it ruined his year. I'm also prepared for it to happen to me at some point. I suspect I have already been on the receiving end of one when I logged in and saw I lost a game I thought I should have won. If it is actually the case I can understand why and I move on to my next battle I do agree thought that not every single member of the squad should get a boost. So my original counter suggestion still stands and would be easier to implement than actually deleting MOTY and create a little more randomness than currently by having some players roll a "0". With maybe the addition of doubling or whatever the moral loss if you actually lose the game as well. Last edited on 2012-09-20 07:47:47 by JeremiahK |
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sh8888
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posted: 2012-09-20 08:22:50 (ID: 57772) Report Abuse |
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JeremiahK wrote:
No. QB's under 6 foot almost never get an even chance at NFL level sh8888. So ... it's 2012 and no QB under 6-0 has a chance at NFL level ? Maybe Russell Wilson isn't 5-10 , and maybe he's not a Starter on an NFL team, maybe I just imagined it ? 
Vick is listed at 6-0, so is Drew Brees, Seneca Wallace is 5-11 ....... and as for the accuracy of the official height stats when it comes to QB's *cough* ... moving on ... JeremiahK wrote:
"disrupt another manager" Umm how exactly. Losing a game might put a crimp in anyones day. This one takes the biscuit as probably the pettiest reason against MOTY that I have read. If you'd actually read the post rather than simply misquoting you'd have seen that Hosh13 said "There is only a point to using moty for teams that may or may not make the playoffs" ....... and my response was that MOTY could be used for any reason whatsoever, so it wasn't "a petty reason against MOTY" , it was actually stating a possible reason for using MOTY. |
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MTS1972
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posted: 2012-09-20 08:31:45 (ID: 57774) Report Abuse |
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Keep MOTY!
sh8888 is being anally retentive as Jeremiah has just ruthlessly exposed! if you take MOTY away then what other reason does wadders have for losing games!! Every team goes MOTY on his ass if you listen to him! but every team, almost at every level, in every sport, has that ONE game on their fixtures where it is just that bit different from the rest. The crowd are louder, the players are pumped that little more, the result has that extra edge to it - name a sport and ill give you an example. In this GAME, i think its been represented nicely. Can it be changed - sure - but so can pretty much everything be changed - dont mean its right or needed or ok to do so. And i think in the list of priorities, a change to MOTY is way down the pecking order. So let it be Pete, and ignore the sh8888 flaming of it. Now then, about that Transfer Market.....  |
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MTS1972
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posted: 2012-09-20 08:38:40 (ID: 57776) Report Abuse |
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As a footnote to my sh8888 baiting, i DO think though that teams that use MOTY should be identified to their opposition and in the overall results listing, or maybe somewhere on the General Stats page - even if just via a different coloured font, or an asterisk somewhere, so that the opposition knows they have been MOTY'd - and the rest of the league knows that that particular team has played their MOTY card for the season.
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