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andrew2scott2
posted: 2012-10-04 19:00:49 (ID: 60060) Report Abuse
Reduce the inflation of the game
What really need to happen to get some that money out of the game is more quality FA on the TM which would take away any where from 20m-100m + from the game there for lower the inflation because of no team get that money for a FA

I would say most FA that hit the TM are no where near even a youth pull standard. But where do FA? Where two places.
1 from teams that did not resign a player
2 from bot teams from where there release all upper level players

But these players do not go straight to the TM They go to a FA pool where they are pulled at random to the TM in limited amounts.

In this suggestion they should modify the pull so that it pulls so many player by there overall rating so many a season.

That way increase or guarantee better quality FA player will hit the market.

And there for because no team get paid the money that was bib on them
There goes money out of the game there for lower the inflation that pete and other game designer are worried about
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Tarjan
posted: 2012-10-04 19:06:14 (ID: 60062) Report Abuse
But with that the older, better, richer teams will get better and the difference towards the new guys will get even bigger...
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posted: 2012-10-04 20:08:55 (ID: 60078) Report Abuse
We have that situation on the test server.
I'm not hungry for FA anymore, because I have 70 good drafties or better on my team.
-> almost all FA get ignored are sold for a dime.
-> doesn't take away any money at all, since they are all cheap.

Of cause you could just double or triple the actual rate it has now, but then the only more bidding starts.
Price would probably go down a bit, but not much at this rate.

I think the game just has to mature, mean all season 1 teams have to hit the wage cealing and THEN it gets funny.
Anf believe me, this will come soon.
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andrew2scott2
posted: 2012-10-05 05:23:54 (ID: 60111) Report Abuse
Cheap lol I'm talking about draftee level players 200m is the new top. But then again on the test sever is there over 600 active users?

600teams at lest 300 are pulling in 100m around 100m a year right now
that 30,000,000,000 that large number and that a signal season

So what I'm taking about would not stop this inflation but would surely make a dent but would not hinder the growth of the newer teams.

Shoot right now with the way the TM going 10 draftees over the season would get ride of 10 to 20 billion.

And beside it doesn't matter weather we talk about the older team. Some young teams and old will sell there some of there draftee players for one reason or other. And the older teams already got the kind of money to spend up to 200 to 300 for a guy so make you think it matters who they get the player from. What matters is see some of that money exit the game versus shift around all the time.
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posted: 2012-10-05 05:36:16 (ID: 60115) Report Abuse
I know what you mean.
But the only way to really stop this, whould be to flood the market.

The new created "drafties" hitting the FA-market are at the moment bound to the user count. So the more users, the more FAs.

You are saying, that they are not enough. Fine.
So what dio you think, would be better? Actual Numbers x 2? x3? x5?

We are 16 Users at the test server and get 5 new one every day.
And I tell you, that THIS number is basically killing the market.

So yes, somewhere between the actual number now, what ever that is, and around 1/3 of #Users per day should be the needed solution.
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andrew2scott2
posted: 2012-10-05 05:45:46 (ID: 60118) Report Abuse
Well maybe I'm miss under standing something then Because the last time I check the Bot teams cut there better players right?
Then those player don't hit the market right away the go in some sort of waiting pool for the free agency yes or no.

And I'm not say so much as FA because at any giving time there is plenty of FA players on the market to bulk the TM up. But it "seem" that 80% of them are not even to a youth pull standard so no one bids on them.


Then right now I would guess that there have been maybe 3 this season that were 2 1/2 stars or better be release when that number should be higher.
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Tarjan
posted: 2012-10-05 06:07:37 (ID: 60120) Report Abuse
I bought 2 "draft" players just because i could not because i needed them i still think that the easiest way to get over the money thing is to stop the TM completly.
The "new" managers should get players wich let them start at 40% of strength (passing, rushing, and so on what ever this exactly means on the overview side). New Players only could be brought in through 5-7 rounds of draft and the YA.

Reduce the income of all games let´s say 1/3 and see how the managers work their squad financially, when their players reach a skill of 40+...
just my 2 cents
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posted: 2012-10-05 06:13:44 (ID: 60122) Report Abuse
andrew2scott2 wrote:
Well maybe I'm miss under standing something then Because the last time I check the Bot teams cut there better players right?
Then those player don't hit the market right away the go in some sort of waiting pool for the free agency yes or no.

And I'm not say so much as FA because at any giving time there is plenty of FA players on the market to bulk the TM up. But it "seem" that 80% of them are not even to a youth pull standard so no one bids on them.


Then right now I would guess that there have been maybe 3 this season that were 2 1/2 stars or better be release when that number should be higher.

Yes, Bots cut their drafties and they go into a pool of players (don't know how many there are). But also all other cut players go into that pool.
Out of that pool all FA are taken, but there are also regularly NEW FA created, on drafties level.
I'm sure there were more than a few drafties on the market this season.

The main problem is, you would have to crash the market, otherwise the big dollar clubs will spend big dollars on the really good ones and sell the medium players they have for a few bucks less to the weaker clubs.
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posted: 2012-10-05 06:16:57 (ID: 60124) Report Abuse
Tarjan wrote:
I bought 2 "draft" players just because i could not because i needed them i still think that the easiest way to get over the money thing is to stop the TM completly.
The "new" managers should get players wich let them start at 40% of strength (passing, rushing, and so on what ever this exactly means on the overview side). New Players only could be brought in through 5-7 rounds of draft and the YA.

Reduce the income of all games let´s say 1/3 and see how the managers work their squad financially, when their players reach a skill of 40+...
just my 2 cents

I once suggested a wage driven FA-market driven by players not managers. Means, you can't sell a player, you only can hire or fire him.
If you want to hire him, what are you willing to spend in wages?
Top player expect top money, if they don't get that, they lower their expectations until they get it from any club.
They money then just vanish from the game, instead of circle around.
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hosh13
posted: 2012-10-05 15:00:31 (ID: 60169) Report Abuse
Do we need the YA?

I don't really think it's realistic - what does it simulate?

What we are seeing now, with some managers in their 5th season, is the full maturing of the power of their YAs. They churn out fully physically developed players (and then some) for which other managers are paying a fortune.

This is another thing that noobs cannot match for many (4 or 5) seasons.

Should we get exclusive access to the players in our YAs?

Maybe we can decide when a youth goes on the market from our YA (rather than have exclusive and free access to him).

Perhaps then, depending on his age, we only have exclusive access to him if we pay an amount of money. The older he is the greater the amount (since he'd usually be better). Otherwise he's a FA.

So it could be something like -

18yo - $5M
19yo - $10M
20yo - $15M

You pay or he's a FA.

So you make no money from the YA. Maybe there could be a modest signing fee if someone else picks him up.

Probably also need a rule that a player taken from your own YA cannot be sold for 2 seasons say.
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