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Turtlemania
posted: 2012-10-12 04:25:11 (ID: 61234) Report Abuse
So we know, that player play out of position get penalty on skills

But let say i have CB Coach and no SF Coach

And when then i play a CB at SF (out of position)

This player gets penalty for out of position since this is total clear in manual and i think so also in engine, but do he gets:

a) additional penalty for not have SF Coach because he is play SF

b) bonus because he is a CB with CB coach on team irrespective of what he plays

I ask because watch teams with no listed SF on team having though huge ingame %

But because of the new learning, that on my team just 1-2 total play of 1-2 weaker SFs on position SF can pull down % for 2+ (player on position and Coaches for it) and in comparison with no-SF teams then it started make me ask this

Also when look at scoreboard the player played SF though list on scoreboard at CB and manual say for coaches:

Coaches affect the game play


...In the engine, a coach you hired makes your players do better, of course he affects only those positions he is in charge of.

A not hired coach slot makes your players perform worse.


Only positions he is in charge - Boxscore shows the player play at SF as CB -> so penalty for him, or despite out position gets CB coach bonus?

The logic for sure is: he gets no CB Coach bonus, but additional "SF no Coach" malus, what then should result into a huge drop of performance

But from observation i do not see evidence for this happening

Thanks for checking/clarification/hints
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hosh13
posted: 2012-10-12 05:31:23 (ID: 61236) Report Abuse
I asked pete this question a while back.

The answer was that you do not get the benefit of a CB-AC for a CB playing out of position. You get the out of position penalty. There is no further penalty or benefit from anything else.

So comparison -

CB with CB-AC playing at CB get benefit of CB-AC and no OOP penalty.
CB with CB-AC playing not at CB gets no benefit from CB-AC and get the OOP penalty.
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Turtlemania
posted: 2012-10-12 05:53:53 (ID: 61239) Report Abuse
hosh13 wrote:
CB with CB-AC playing not at CB gets no benefit from CB-AC and get the OOP penalty.


Thanks hosh!

But this is exact the point/question i have in case i took out:

Do player, when like in example no SF coach on team, do get additional malus from play on SF without Coach?

manual wrote:
Coaches affect the game play

A not hired coach slot makes your players perform worse.



So this CB gets out of position penalty - logical
This CB do not get CB Coach bonus because he is playing SF - logical
This CB should get SF malus on top because no SF coach - imo logical, but is it in effect?

Or maybe it is only for me a logical thing but not wanted, then i am also fine, just need to know


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hosh13
posted: 2012-10-12 06:29:33 (ID: 61244) Report Abuse
I beleive that is simply poor wording. When it says "perform worse" they simply mean no bonus.

That part of the manual probably needs a little work. Or I simply am not understanding it either.

But again, I'm pretty sure I covered this with pete b4 too.

Last edited on 2012-10-12 06:30:12 by hosh13

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