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posted: 2012-10-17 07:48:29 (ID: 62017) Report Abuse
I'm trying to figure out how the blocking equation works. You would think the O-Linemen would be utilizing Strength, Blocking and maybe Footwork and/or Agility and/or Positioning and/or Vision.

But what I'm not sure is how this compares to the D-Linemen...obviously he needs Tackling (for tackling the ball carrier), but that's probably not a factor in breaking/blowing by a block attempt. So I'm thinking is probably Strength, not Tackling...but what else? Is footwork also need? What about Agility and Positioning and Vision and Speed?


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hosh13
posted: 2012-10-17 08:21:28 (ID: 62024) Report Abuse
Sounds like you've answered most of your own questions!

It makes you wonder what blocking is compared to though. We have -

Foot vs Foot
Ag vs Ag
Str vs Str
Spd? vs Spd?
OL Block vs ???

I guess it's a combo thing.

One could think the OL has an advantage since there is nothing to train to directly counter it. But I guess DL can simply spend more time training the others.

I also wohnder that if one skill is much better than an opponents, and the rest are about even, does that give that player a VERY large advantage? I think a very agile DL should should regularly beat a not so agile OL, even if the rest of their skills are even i.e exponentially.

Not sure what actually does happen though.
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posted: 2012-10-17 11:13:34 (ID: 62052) Report Abuse
For sure the theory of tackling plays its role...
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phareux
posted: 2012-10-17 11:14:11 (ID: 62053) Report Abuse
possibly blocking vs position?
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posted: 2012-10-17 11:24:01 (ID: 62055) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
For sure the theory of tackling plays its role...


In the OL vs DL battle?
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posted: 2012-10-17 11:40:17 (ID: 62058) Report Abuse
phareux wrote:
possibly blocking vs position?


I see vision/position/speed as the things that get a player into position to physically interact.

Agility is like an interim thing.

And then the specific skills and strength are in play after that.

So in terms of a 1 on 1 skill battle (which I don't beleive happens in any case), I doubt there's much chance that position is the opposite of blocking. It's just a whole bunch of stuff thrown into one equation - it's just a matter of what's in the equation and how they're weighted.

I think VIS is very important for DL since it helps them to quickly work out which way the RB is going. For OL VIS is probably not so important since they simply block the DL in front of them, so in their case POS is probably more important. But even then VIS probably helps the OL to quickly read where the DL is trying to go and make a cleaner block.

To me, VIS is mainly in play when a player needs to read more than 1 other player - so QB/RB/FB/TE and all defenders except CB who simply mark WRs (mostly). WRs mainly read CBs also so unless they run inside routes, VIS is no doubt secondary to POS which gets them open.

It is probably also generally fair to assume that there is no great point in having great POS without at least decent VIS since the decision about what POS to run/get to is based on VIS.
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posted: 2012-10-17 11:51:34 (ID: 62060) Report Abuse
hosh13 wrote:
pete wrote:
For sure the theory of tackling plays its role...


In the OL vs DL battle?


Yes, we did not establish an own skill like "block defending"...so the AC teaching tackling has to cover this aspect as well...However, you won't hear me making comments on the physics and tactics mentioned above...
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posted: 2012-10-17 12:32:57 (ID: 62068) Report Abuse
Well that's good to know!

Last edited on 2012-10-17 12:34:41 by hosh13

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posted: 2012-10-17 12:36:18 (ID: 62069) Report Abuse
What about catching? Does a defenders catching counter a receiver's? Does tackling counter catching?
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posted: 2012-10-17 12:42:03 (ID: 62070) Report Abuse
I would like to tell...(atmospheric interference)...that's all I can tell!
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