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sfniner08
posted: 2012-10-19 22:44:17 (ID: 62556) Report Abuse
ombi wrote:
hosh13 wrote:
sfniner08 wrote:
What is crazy is the managers who keep inflating the price. I mean, really, why put in bid after bid with 1 or 2 days to go? Isn't one bid enough for you to put him on your bid list? I think it not the most intelligent route unless you have so much money that you are going to just bludgeon people with it. As an example, Sydney convicts put in at least 20 different bids on each of the 150 million dollar players on the market right now. Why?


Blame the pinboard!


I have no problem with it. Managers that won't be online when the auction ends get to put in their max bid this way. If others want to pay silly prices after that, let them.



However they can't really put their max bid in, only the 10% above the current bid. In addition they know that bid won't win it anyway.
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bagss
posted: 2012-10-19 22:49:34 (ID: 62558) Report Abuse
There's just sick amount of money in the game and imo that's why people just don't care and start those 'bid wars'. Maybe an ego thing, not sure...
but it's definetly fun to watch :]
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ombi
posted: 2012-10-19 22:50:15 (ID: 62559) Report Abuse
sfniner08 wrote:
ombi wrote:
hosh13 wrote:
sfniner08 wrote:
What is crazy is the managers who keep inflating the price. I mean, really, why put in bid after bid with 1 or 2 days to go? Isn't one bid enough for you to put him on your bid list? I think it not the most intelligent route unless you have so much money that you are going to just bludgeon people with it. As an example, Sydney convicts put in at least 20 different bids on each of the 150 million dollar players on the market right now. Why?


Blame the pinboard!


I have no problem with it. Managers that won't be online when the auction ends get to put in their max bid this way. If others want to pay silly prices after that, let them.



However they can't really put their max bid in, only the 10% above the current bid. In addition they know that bid won't win it anyway.


If other people bid early as well, then their max bid is easier to reach. And they might win the auction this way if no one else is prepared to pay that much. However I do agree that this doesn't happen a lot, but if someone wants to overpay after that, who cares?
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sfniner08
posted: 2012-10-19 22:53:30 (ID: 62560) Report Abuse
hosh13 wrote:
sfniner08 wrote:
I don't understand the constant bidding on a player with days to go. It serves no purpose whatsoever other than to drive up the price. Any reasonable person can see that you can't win an auction with that much time left. You aren't proving you are more willing than the next guy to spend either. So...why? Is it just to drive up the price because they think it is somehow "fun?" My other question is, why do those who know they aren't really going to be in the final bidding keep raising the price?


You must think people are pretty stupid. Do you think the last 2 bids on this player are in any way influenced by what's happened b4?

This is simple - people decide their limit on any given player and NOTHING else has anything to do with it!


Absolutely they are. It raised the amount of the player. Is it possible the player would still go for that amount? Sure, but unlikely in my opinion.

When you are in the end game of the auction there are generally two ways people bid, well three I suppose.

One is the bludgeon approach. If one manager feels they have the capital advantage they may bid the max they can everytime to intimidate the other bidder.

When that fails or if this is their approach then they bid the minimum amount over and over hoping to outlast the other bidder.

The third way is really the last way but with two different approaches. One is to bid the minimum, wait for the other bid to put their bid in and wait until the final seconds to put in another bid. The goal being to either frustrate the other bidder into quitting or tricking the other bidder into thinking it was over and they closed the window.

The other variation is to bid the minimum wait for the other bid to put their bid in and then immediately raise the minimum again. This is an attempt to show the other bidder that you are serious and will continue as much as you have to.

Really it is a psychological back and forth. So, if you are starting at 150 million rather than 1 million you are starting the stakes there for this back and forth. The mindset doesn't change a whole lot in either circumstance. The number of bids has an effect too. If you are starting at 1 million the bidding will go back and forth for a while...but then the grind of raising and waiting begins to come into play. The clock as well.

Starting at 150 million in the end game only escalates the issue. The clock is less of a factor and so is the grind because then it comes down to bludgeoning with tons of cash.

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hosh13
posted: 2012-10-19 23:03:11 (ID: 62563) Report Abuse
Well you have now dug your own grave. I will continue to do this since you say that I am sucking more money out of other managers.

In fact, I urge everyone to get out there and bid your arse off every time you have a red digit in that pinboard - see red!

Too bad this is a bunch of crap!
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slider6
posted: 2012-10-20 00:01:23 (ID: 62575) Report Abuse
I don't understand what you are having a hard time with SF.

If Player A is up for auction and ends at a time that I know I won't be around and I decide my max bid for this player is 75M, why would I not try and get the price to 75M while I'm online? I would be pissed off if I came back after the auction ended to see that he went for 67M because I only bid on him once to get him in my bidlist.
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bwadders76
posted: 2012-10-20 00:28:54 (ID: 62578) Report Abuse
hosh13 wrote:
Well you have now dug your own grave. I will continue to do this since you say that I am sucking more money out of other managers.

In fact, I urge everyone to get out there and bid your arse off every time you have a red digit in that pinboard - see red!

Too bad this is a bunch of crap!


go on hosh you suck all the money out of SF cant see you winning though as hes got millions more than you. Plus your suggestion of only hosh can bid for players hasnt been implemented yet
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bwadders76
posted: 2012-10-20 00:30:38 (ID: 62579) Report Abuse
slider6 wrote:
I don't understand what you are having a hard time with SF.

If Player A is up for auction and ends at a time that I know I won't be around and I decide my max bid for this player is 75M, why would I not try and get the price to 75M while I'm online? I would be pissed off if I came back after the auction ended to see that he went for 67M because I only bid on him once to get him in my bidlist.


I think they call it jealousy
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sfniner08
posted: 2012-10-20 01:35:35 (ID: 62586) Report Abuse
Actually I only have 118 million. I've never had more than 150 million in the bank.

What I am saying is that if it is a draft like quality player, as of now, you know there is no way he goes under 100million. I've yet to see a player of that quality be sold to someone not online at the time of the end of the auction. It doesn't happen. 75 million? No way.

I'm not mad, I just think it is sheer stupidity to raise up the prices when it not need happen.
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posted: 2012-10-20 02:23:28 (ID: 62591) Report Abuse
Only a few more dollars, but only a few hours left!

Do you people understand how important this is to his brothers back in Kazakhstan? To break the record?


Steve
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