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hosh13
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posted: 2012-10-29 07:39:34 (ID: 64272) Report Abuse |
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How about -
At rollover, we have, say, 601 human managers. so we need 41 divisions (40 x 15 = 600) So we fill the first 40, leaving 1 in the 41st. We then take 1 from the last 13 and end up with 14 div with 14 humans + 27 full human divisions. The 14 bots can be filled by noobs who join after rollover as can other spots as managers go bot thru the season. Then all that's needed is 1 single overflow division. All noobs - random schedule (probably avoid playing same team twice). And they get paid some sort of noob SC average per game. No one joining after rollover is in the hunt for the playoffs so that makes no difference - just fun, experience, sorting their team and money. And they get to play against others at their level. It could be a noob SC - team with most wins and PD wins. (So also maybe all noobs go in here instead of the SC proper?). |
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Buffalo
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posted: 2012-10-29 07:52:54 (ID: 64274) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
"the best 128 teams overall enter the playoffs"... So the "best" teams are for you the teams with weaker division, who only score the most points? We had this discussion, but the way it is, is still not the best solution. So here I want to continue the idea of 128 sticky division in the SC. This would be 14 teams per division. 2 games less, so the maximum loss of money would be 8,7 Mio$. I think this is no problem. What to do if you add level 4. Level 4 play in the first season in the SC-qualifier. This are divisions of 16 teams like now, and you can add as much as division you want to add, because this is only the qualifier for the next SC season. The 100 (200....300....400...or 500) best teams after 15 games play in a relegation round against the weakest teams of the SC-group stage. The winner of these games and the other teams of the old SC-season go in one database for the new SC-season drawing. You get more competition in the SC, because you shouldn't throw away your SC season after 1 or 2 losses to avoid the relegation round. You would also have a higher quality in the SC, because League 1 teams get not leagues with a lot of League 4 bot, after adding more levels. For the SC-qualifier you can add more and more levels. In the SC qualifier the teams have not the "big" games with a huge income, but they have 2 more group games. Also the chance to play at a huge stadium is actual small, in groups with 4 human teams and the rest bot teams. |
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| posted: 2012-10-29 08:35:27 (ID: 64287) Report Abuse | |
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bwadders76 wrote:
jack6 wrote:
pete wrote:
Are you sure? All these "the ranking is useless" guys would start crying...I am afraid That might be, and I think the ranking formular had to be - changed, to cover the team-played-team-which-played-team-depth - open for review, so nobody could argue it's shit, since if you don't like, it, ... suggest an enhancement. Still, this would bring ALL regular games in perspective and close games vs tough opponents would mean a lot more than today. So basically I'm suggesting a TOP64 or TOP128 as in college and we THEN do a playoff.  Are you proposing that as the playoff for the SC or as a tiebreaker instead of PD? For the tiebreaker. That means a bot dominated league or sc-division does not help as much as real wins against real teams. |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-10-29 08:40:50 (ID: 64291) Report Abuse |
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Btw, rightly or wrongly, it's my interpretation that SC is all about all teams being thrown into the same comp to see how everyone stacks up against each other (silly or desirable as that might be) and give everyone a shot at the title.
So abandoning this sort of principle is OK? i.e. seperate divisions? |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-10-29 08:42:48 (ID: 64293) Report Abuse |
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Also, any idea that doesn't concentrate humans -
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Buffalo
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posted: 2012-10-29 08:48:51 (ID: 64294) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
Btw, rightly or wrongly, it's my interpretation that SC is all about all teams being thrown into the same comp to see how everyone stacks up against each other (silly or desirable as that might be) and give everyone a shot at the title. So abandoning this sort of principle is OK? i.e. seperate divisions? Let us be honest: Only League 1 teams have the chance to win the title. With level 4 there would be 240 division with each 16 teams. We have only 256 teams who play in League 1, so there would be only one or 2 teams of Legaue 1 in every division. This would be boring. So we need definitly a system, which condense the quality in the divisions. |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-10-29 10:35:33 (ID: 64313) Report Abuse |
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Ok then.
So have a Div 1 and 2 SC (Elite?), a Div 3 SC and no SC for lower divisions. Or simply split lower divisions by 4 leagues per timezone i.e. always 32 leagues per SC division. So you have SC divisions - SC Elite? SC Div 3 SC Div 4.1 and 4.2 SC Div 5.1, 5.2, 5.3 and 5.4 etc |
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| posted: 2012-10-29 10:47:47 (ID: 64314) Report Abuse | |
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hosh13 wrote:
Btw, rightly or wrongly, it's my interpretation that SC is all about all teams being thrown into the same comp to see how everyone stacks up against each other (silly or desirable as that might be) and give everyone a shot at the title. So abandoning this sort of principle is OK? i.e. seperate divisions? No, it is not. I will do all I can to keep that part of the game. So we can discuss about scheduling issues, but not about splits.. |
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| posted: 2012-10-29 10:49:09 (ID: 64315) Report Abuse | |
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Buffalo wrote:
hosh13 wrote:
Btw, rightly or wrongly, it's my interpretation that SC is all about all teams being thrown into the same comp to see how everyone stacks up against each other (silly or desirable as that might be) and give everyone a shot at the title. So abandoning this sort of principle is OK? i.e. seperate divisions? Let us be honest: Only League 1 teams have the chance to win the title. With level 4 there would be 240 division with each 16 teams. We have only 256 teams who play in League 1, so there would be only one or 2 teams of Legaue 1 in every division. This would be boring. So we need definitly a system, which condense the quality in the divisions. You miss one point... Usually these teams have the big stadiums, and you cut that income again, if you go for a split. I don't like to have rules like "Income is X, except you are playing A d2 or lower team on Tuesdays when it rains..." |
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| posted: 2012-10-29 10:51:31 (ID: 64318) Report Abuse | |
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hosh13 wrote:
NO please...
Ok then. So have a Div 1 and 2 SC (Elite?), a Div 3 SC and no SC for lower divisions. Or simply split lower divisions by 4 leagues per timezone i.e. always 32 leagues per SC division. So you have SC divisions - SC Elite? SC Div 3 SC Div 4.1 and 4.2 SC Div 5.1, 5.2, 5.3 and 5.4 etc I counter this proposal... lets make pools.. SCD1-SCD16: All the teams from D1-league Divisions SCD17-SCD48: all teams from D2-league divisions SCD49+: all teams from D3 divisions All other conditions as per today how does this sound?  Last edited on 2012-10-29 10:52:44 by pete |
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