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sneaky_minotaur
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posted: 2012-10-31 17:19:52 (ID: 64944) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
I am not a fan of big playoff money at all. Me either. I think the best thing to do is say No cash at all from playoff games. Yes I know it's not 'realistic' 
But would also unquestionably help promote competitive balance. 
I also understand it's not going to happen.  |
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MTS1972
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posted: 2012-10-31 18:33:05 (ID: 64963) Report Abuse |
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sneaky_minotaur wrote:
hosh13 wrote:
I am not a fan of big playoff money at all. Me either. I think the best thing to do is say No cash at all from playoff games. Yes I know it's not 'realistic'
But would also unquestionably help promote competitive balance.
I also understand it's not going to happen. the perfect post from Pete's perspective....and thats not a deliberate tongue twister....... one that answers his own points and decides no changes to be made, move on! |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-10-31 19:08:57 (ID: 64977) Report Abuse |
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That is perhaps the strangest idea I've heard people voice. No ticket income for playoff games? Holy cow. Imagine telling an NFL owner all revenue from ticket sales is gone. lol.
There is this line of thinking I've noticed by some that they want some kind of a game where everyone is on exact equal terms. Really? Then damn, lets just play all games on power mode. Why is it some seem to think if any team has developed advantages through their own work within the system that those advantages have to be taken away for the sake of "competitive balance." BS. That is simply someone saying they want to be equal to everyone else in a very short amount of time without putting the work in. In sum it sounds like the thing I hear from my kids....."that's not fair." Last edited on 2012-10-31 19:09:38 by sfniner08 |
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sneaky_minotaur
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posted: 2012-10-31 19:43:01 (ID: 64986) Report Abuse |
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sfniner08 wrote:
That is perhaps the strangest idea I've heard people voice. No ticket income for playoff games? Holy cow. Imagine telling an NFL owner all revenue from ticket sales is gone. lol. There is this line of thinking I've noticed by some that they want some kind of a game where everyone is on exact equal terms. Really? Then damn, lets just play all games on power mode. Why is it some seem to think if any team has developed advantages through their own work within the system that those advantages have to be taken away for the sake of "competitive balance." BS. That is simply someone saying they want to be equal to everyone else in a very short amount of time without putting the work in. In sum it sounds like the thing I hear from my kids....."that's not fair." There is this line of thinking that because someone has a big advantage over someone else that they are entitled to it. Why is it that people who have done nothing except be here longer think that they are entitled to always have a better team, not through their own hard work but simply because of advantage built into the system? This has nothing to do with how much time you've put in. This has to do with the fact that teams that have been around longer tend to make the playoffs. This gives them more money then teams who do not make the playoffs. This gives them a clear advantage to make the playoffs again simply because they have more money to spend on players. This means how ever long the new team plays, how ever much 'hard work' they put in, they will always be behind the power curve because the older team gets more money. If you don't think you can compete against teams that get the same income as you, that's your problem. But if that is the case stop talking about all your "time and hard work" and start talking about "you simply get more cash". BS - this is someone who doesn't want anyone new to be equal to them no matter have long and hard them work. In sum it's like something I hear from kids - "I want more" And let's give the "they get playoff income in the NFL" thing a rest. NFL teams get the majority of their income from EVENLY SPLITTING the TV revenue AND they have a HARD SALARY CAP. So unless that's what you want to see here, please just stop with the comparisons to the NFL revenue model. |
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I get your both points...now watch not to put more pressure in here pls.
Basically, we created a system where you get money for selling tickets. And we won't change that part. And WC games are official games and therefore the managers receive ticket money. In my opinion we can chose between 1.) have a simple model of rules, easy to explain, but with a disadvantage for teams not playing WC games. The two best division winners have to watch TV on that day, and can relax for the huge task ahead, the DP games... or 2.) create an exception for ticket income from WC games. We change the manual, the engine and so on. And people will ask all time "Why did I get no money from it" - all other conditions as in 1.) or 3.) get rid of ticket income from playoff games at all. People will then ask why they are not allowed to generate income from their most important games of the season. If I don't hear better arguments, I would like to stick with 1, because it is easy to understand, and somehow logical. And finally...this is not a battle between vets and newbees....even newbees can enter WC games for income, in their leaguelevel... |
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sneaky_minotaur
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posted: 2012-10-31 20:06:57 (ID: 64994) Report Abuse |
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Sorry if I overreacted pete
Anyway... As I think I said before, I believe 3) would be the best choice, but I understand that 1) is the way it's going to be in all likelihood. 
Edit: oh and btw, I think 2) would be the worst choice of the three options. Last edited on 2012-10-31 20:23:49 by sneaky_minotaur |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-10-31 21:14:02 (ID: 65022) Report Abuse |
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There's no doubt that zero money has credence since there is also no salary cap. But this is just about the WC games for now.
What about if the 2 WC teams and the 2 top seeds share the WC revenue 4 ways - an equal share each? Maybe with a 1.25 or 1.5 factor? |
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| posted: 2012-10-31 21:22:01 (ID: 65025) Report Abuse | |
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That would be a different rule then again, read my post above pls...I don't like to rules with exceptions based on rules with exceptions...
You will understand that? |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-10-31 21:26:36 (ID: 65027) Report Abuse |
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How does the NFL work with this. Do the WC teams have a greater earning potential than the top 2 seeds? Or does the money get divided up somehow?
This goes back a long way too - when I first started watching the NFL, there were 3 Div per Conf and the 2 WC teams played off on Tuesdays!  |
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sneaky_minotaur
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posted: 2012-10-31 21:39:18 (ID: 65037) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
How does the NFL work with this. Do the WC teams have a greater earning potential than the top 2 seeds? Or does the money get divided up somehow? A very quick google search for "nfl revenue sharing" had this as the top hit for me (lol, on a basketball site no less  ):
"The NFL's revenue-sharing model is universally lauded as the reason pro football continues to thrive in tiny markets like Green Bay, Wisconsin. The bulk of the league's revenue - approximately $4 billion in 2011 - comes from broadcast deals with NBC, CBS, Fox, ESPN and DirecTV. That income is shared equally among all teams. Income from licensing deals - everything from jerseys to posters to team-logo beer coolers - is also shared evenly. Ticket revenue is split using a slightly different formula: the home team keeps 60 percent of "the gate" for each game, while the visiting team gets 40 percent. Other sources of revenue - things like the sale of luxury boxes, stadium concessions and the like - are not shared, which does give teams in bigger markets or with state-of-the-art arenas a significant edge in profitability. The new CBA attempts to remedy that in two ways. First, the league will set aside a percentage of revenue in a stadium fund, which will be used to match teams' investments in their facilities. Second, there will be an additional "luxury tax" levied on high-revenue teams, with the receipts set to be distributed to the lower-revenue clubs." Ticket sales is not how NFL teams pay their salaries. When you added up all that sharing and factor in a hard salary cap what you get is a system that helps promote competitive balance. 
(and let's not even go into what they do with the schedule to promote competitive balance...) |
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