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andrew2scott2
posted: 2012-12-04 01:58:06 (ID: 70945) Report Abuse
Back up for one second you all are miss something. Let break down the 5-2
against a short pass.
So the safety cover deep 2
the LB cover hook zones
CB cover flat zones

So how do CB cover 2 WR . Because the LB are in the middle of the field. Out of position to cover unless the WR comes cross the middle.

So how it should work.
QB drops back passes quick to slot wr .Who is standing wide open as the linebacker are in the middle of the field not out where the slot WR are.

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E Logic
posted: 2012-12-04 12:33:52 (ID: 70965) Report Abuse
andrew2scott2 wrote:
Back up for one second you all are miss something. Let break down the 5-2
against a short pass.
So the safety cover deep 2
the LB cover hook zones
CB cover flat zones

So how do CB cover 2 WR . Because the LB are in the middle of the field. Out of position to cover unless the WR comes cross the middle.

So how it should work.
QB drops back passes quick to slot wr .Who is standing wide open as the linebacker are in the middle of the field not out where the slot WR are.

I think there is one thing you are missing. if you look at all the formation diagrams in the manuel you will see there are not slot recievers. The only people to come close to playing in the slot are TE.
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andrew2scott2
posted: 2012-12-04 15:15:24 (ID: 70978) Report Abuse
I think you where looking at the 2 wr shot gun Not the 4 wide shot gun
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E Logic
posted: 2012-12-04 15:27:30 (ID: 70979) Report Abuse
andrew2scott2 wrote:
I think you where looking at the 2 wr shot gun Not the 4 wide shot gun
i dont know what you think is a slot reciever is but i can assure you there is no WR in the shotgun 4WR or in any other formation that is even close to being in the slot. look how wide they are, they are on the numbers.
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petef
posted: 2012-12-04 18:55:41 (ID: 70998) Report Abuse
IMO you are right in that in a normal game you would have a big miss match when a 4WR set faced 5-2 Def. You are either asking a LB or one of your safeties to cover the second WR on each side.


But I also took a quick look at one of you recent games 4wr vs 5-2
I know this is just one game..ok?

And I just focused on when you were in 4WR vs 5-2.

The engine seem to work ok...
Firstly your QB overthrew the ball a fair bit and your WR's dropped a fair few catches.
The rest seem to be successful plays that ended in the CB making a tackle. So I am making an assumption here! That the CB is playing soft coverage and closing once he sees the ball flight. They were all short passes so all playes started in front of the CB position.

Now IMO I would never play 5-2 against 4WR but this is how I saw this game.


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andrew2scott2
posted: 2012-12-05 02:06:46 (ID: 71035) Report Abuse
I am not complaining about the fact of the yards. It the simple fact that miss match may not equal more yard but more, alot more easy completions.


But then again the enigine still needs work.

right now the Macth up of formation is not here.
It more of good or bad for pass and rush.

Last edited on 2012-12-05 02:16:12 by andrew2scott2

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dark_wing
posted: 2012-12-05 09:38:18 (ID: 71060) Report Abuse
petef wrote:
CIMO you are right in that in a normal game you would have a big miss match when a 4WR set faced 5-2 Def. You are either asking a LB or one of your safeties to cover the second WR on each side.



But 5 DL- players can help to make good pass-rushing of DE-s and MLB-blitz.
I am sure 5-2 vs Shotgun 4WR then the 1-s and goal at 5 yards to goal-line - is normal solution.
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