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wiesengrund
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posted: 2012-12-08 19:11:20 (ID: 71501) Report Abuse |
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theguystv wrote:
He actually has 6 TFL, and that doesn't prove anything since tackles for loss haven't been counted for the entire season. you're right on both accounts, indeed. |
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canonico
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posted: 2013-05-04 22:19:22 (ID: 94691) Report Abuse |
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Bump.
This is still happening, Sacks shouldn't count as TFL. |
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hosh13
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posted: 2013-05-05 10:24:22 (ID: 94740) Report Abuse |
I'd like to see this separated as well - it would be a great way to know who to play at DT and who at DE!  |
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| posted: 2013-05-05 10:29:09 (ID: 94743) Report Abuse | |
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I know it for sure based on NCAA rules...A Sack is counted as a Tackle. If that tackle goes for negative Yards...it is a TFL.
I won't change that until someone points me to a page with rules were it tells different |
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bwadders76
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posted: 2013-05-05 10:44:31 (ID: 94748) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
I know it for sure based on NCAA rules...A Sack is counted as a Tackle. If that tackle goes for negative Yards...it is a TFL. I won't change that until someone points me to a page with rules were it tells different The RZA rules bible - take what it says as gospel |
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hosh13
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posted: 2013-05-05 11:15:53 (ID: 94757) Report Abuse |
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My understanding is that the term Sack is the special case of the QB being tackled behind the LOS. A "tackle" is what happens to all other ball carriers or the QB once he is beyond the LOS.
So a Tackle for a loss (TFL) generally applies to RBs. A sack is not a tackle, it's a sack. |
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hosh13
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posted: 2013-05-05 11:17:24 (ID: 94758) Report Abuse |
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For those that mistakenly think wiki is gospel -
#American_and_Canadian_football" target="_blank">Wiki page "A tackle is known as a quarterback sack when the quarterback is tackled behind the line of scrimmage while attempting to throw a pass. A tackle for loss indicates a tackle that causes a loss of yardage for the opposing running back or wide receiver." |
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sh8888
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posted: 2013-05-05 11:24:18 (ID: 94760) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
A sack is not a tackle, it's a sack. Yeah ? they don't agree with Hosh .... so who is wrong "Definition of Sack The league defines a sack as tackling the quarterback behind the line of scrimmage while he is attempting to pass. All three elements must be present. It has to be the quarterback, not another player taking a handoff or pitch and throwing an option pass. It has to be behind the line of scrimmage; a quarterback who is chased across the line is credited with run yardage. And the quarterback must be trying to pass; designed run plays that are stopped behind the line of scrimmage are not considered sacks. In the Grasp A quarterback does not have to be tackled and brought to the ground for the play to be a sack. Once the quarterback is in the 'grasp and control' of a defensive player, the referee is to blow his whistle and stop the play. Whoever had the quarterback under his control gets the sack." |
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hosh13
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posted: 2013-05-05 11:38:11 (ID: 94765) Report Abuse |
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Like I said, wiki is not gospel, but eHow?
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sh8888
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posted: 2013-05-05 11:41:15 (ID: 94766) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
Like I said, wiki is not gospel, but eHow? a choice between believing what some wacky Internet site says and believing what Hosh says .......... hmmm, now give me 2 milliseconds to consider it  |
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