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Buffalo
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posted: 2012-12-11 08:33:00 (ID: 71812) Report Abuse |
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I transfered the start of the discussion from the bug-forum to the discussions.
pete wrote:
dampeele wrote:
On a side note. Pete, we should do something about players playing out of position, because those randomly picked players from assorted positions played as QB and showed great results. Those players were 13/26 combined, 6 pass TD, no Int with three TD went long for 38, 55, 56 yards. That was not supposed to happen. For the second part we should go in "Discussions", please. The "Bug"-thing itself was answered correct by the other posters I this case the OOP for QBs seem to be too low. So I thought of a higher OOP for some positions e.g. QB. OOPs for positions something like this: QB: 75% RB: 25% WR: 25% TE: 25% OL: 50% DL:50% LB: 50% SF: 25% CB: 25% K and P: 50% |
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Viking
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posted: 2012-12-11 08:43:16 (ID: 71813) Report Abuse |
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Buffalo wrote:
I this case the OOP for QBs seem to be too low. So I thought of a higher OOP for some positions e.g. QB. OOPs for positions something like this: QB: 75% RB: 25% WR: 25% TE: 25% OL: 50% DL:50% LB: 50% SF: 25% CB: 25% K and P: 50% According me there should be matrix for each position, for example CB can easily play SF, but hardly OL ... |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-12-11 09:07:33 (ID: 71815) Report Abuse |
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Viking wrote:
According me there should be matrix for each position, for example CB can easily play SF, but hardly OL ...  |
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Buffalo
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posted: 2012-12-11 09:51:29 (ID: 71818) Report Abuse |
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Viking wrote:
for example CB can easily play SF, but hardly OL ... Not in the Pete's RZA-world. The OOP should exactly prevent the use of CB and SF in exchange. |
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petef
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posted: 2012-12-11 13:12:51 (ID: 71827) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
Viking wrote:
According me there should be matrix for each position, for example CB can easily play SF, but hardly OL ... This is what I was thinking as well. But it is difficult to work out. it was more than just the on field player penalties that are involved... there was also Asst Coaches and thier affects |
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2012-12-11 13:36:40 (ID: 71831) Report Abuse |
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Buffalo wrote:
Viking wrote:
for example CB can easily play SF, but hardly OL ... Not in the Pete's RZA-world. The OOP should exactly prevent the use of CB and SF in exchange. Why would we want to prevent CB/SF to be able to be efficient anywhere in the backfield when it's something that happens fairly often in real football? Just last night during MNF McCourty played both SF and CB for the Pats. FB sometimes play TE TE line-up wide and play as slot WRs or even out wide sometimes Some pass rushers play both OLB and DE ... If the goal is to make this game realistic then the penalty should be a matrix as has been suggested above. An OL playing QB makes no sense but a FB playing RB does. Ideally we could have 3 different penalties, a very small one, an average one and a really high one. Very small penalty for: RB/FB TE/WR DE/OLB CB/SF Average penalty for: FB/TE K/P OL/TE RB/WR Really high penalty for all other position changes as they are completely unrealistic. |
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ptossell
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posted: 2012-12-11 13:47:07 (ID: 71833) Report Abuse |
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It's not just the OOP penalties that would need to be addressed. You would also need to look at ACs and how they work if CBs were allowed to play SF with smaller penalties. Pete set positions up to tie in with ACs, and therefore this part of the game is different to real life.
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Viking
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posted: 2012-12-11 13:50:02 (ID: 71835) Report Abuse |
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Meitheisman wrote:
Why would we want to prevent CB/SF to be able to be efficient anywhere in the backfield when it's something that happens fairly often in real football? Just last night during MNF McCourty played both SF and CB for the Pats. FB sometimes play TE TE line-up wide and play as slot WRs or even out wide sometimes Some pass rushers play both OLB and DE ... If the goal is to make this game realistic then the penalty should be a matrix as has been suggested above. An OL playing QB makes no sense but a FB playing RB does. Ideally we could have 3 different penalties, a very small one, an average one and a really high one. Very small penalty for: RB/FB TE/WR DE/OLB CB/SF Average penalty for: FB/TE K/P OL/TE RB/WR Really high penalty for all other position changes as they are completely unrealistic. |
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2012-12-11 13:54:47 (ID: 71836) Report Abuse |
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ptossell wrote:
It's not just the OOP penalties that would need to be addressed. You would also need to look at ACs and how they work if CBs were allowed to play SF with smaller penalties. Pete set positions up to tie in with ACs, and therefore this part of the game is different to real life. Maybe the way ACs work needs to be looked at too but two wrongs don't make a right. It's ridiculous to get the same penalty for a CB playing SF, OL or QB. |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-12-11 14:01:33 (ID: 71837) Report Abuse |
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....and there is another potential issue here, especially for DBs.
If you intend to play the 3-3 (3 SFs) then you need a min of 5 SFs on the roster (1 for potential in-game Inj and another for general Inj). And if you intend to use the dime then you need a min of 6 CBs. So that means you need 11 DBs which is a bit high. |
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