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Laudis
posted: 2012-12-24 13:13:19 (ID: 73050) Report Abuse
I found out, that having HR dep and negotiating wages when skills are quite low, you can easily gain savings 10% below skill estimation.

BUT, with high skill the picture completely changes.....
I im in negotiation with player skill estimated wage around 31,8k and he asks for 59k now even though I offered 39k, I wasnt successfull. He is getting a franchise contract...

What are your experiences and what do you suggest to offer him.
The problem is that I have last chance now...
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cantalupe
posted: 2012-12-24 14:27:44 (ID: 73055) Report Abuse
When giving franchise contract you have to give him 1,5-2x more then his current wage is. At least that's my experience.

Last edited on 2012-12-24 14:28:07 by cantalupe

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wiesengrund
posted: 2012-12-24 17:58:09 (ID: 73072) Report Abuse
Yes, you have to pay up a bit, but considering that binding him to a wage level for 5 years accounts for a lot of wage raises hew could get over that time period with skill based wages. I.e. he is more expensive now than with skill wages, but after 2 or 3 years he breaks even and would have been more expensive with skill wages. Years 4 and 5 he is a bargain.
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posted: 2012-12-24 18:14:10 (ID: 73076) Report Abuse
wiesengrund wrote:
Yes, you have to pay up a bit, but considering that binding him to a wage level for 5 years accounts for a lot of wage raises hew could get over that time period with skill based wages. I.e. he is more expensive now than with skill wages, but after 2 or 3 years he breaks even and would have been more expensive with skill wages. Years 4 and 5 he is a bargain.
thats the concept
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bellj
posted: 2012-12-24 18:14:19 (ID: 73077) Report Abuse
Before you risk losing him, I would sign him to a one-year contract at the price he is asking for. Then next season you can try again with a franchise contract.
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posted: 2012-12-24 18:25:01 (ID: 73078) Report Abuse
wiesengrund wrote:
Yes, you have to pay up a bit, but considering that binding him to a wage level for 5 years accounts for a lot of wage raises hew could get over that time period with skill based wages. I.e. he is more expensive now than with skill wages, but after 2 or 3 years he breaks even and would have been more expensive with skill wages. Years 4 and 5 he is a bargain.


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sh8888
posted: 2012-12-24 18:31:38 (ID: 73080) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
wiesengrund wrote:
Yes, you have to pay up a bit, but considering that binding him to a wage level for 5 years accounts for a lot of wage raises hew could get over that time period with skill based wages. I.e. he is more expensive now than with skill wages, but after 2 or 3 years he breaks even and would have been more expensive with skill wages. Years 4 and 5 he is a bargain.
thats the concept


Managers need to carefully do their sums and projections though .... it's possible to give a Franchise contract to players who are 'too low down the skills curve' .... the net result could be that you 'overpay' for the player throughout the duration of the contract.
Franchise contracts aren't a panacea .... on the contrary, they can turn out to be an expensive liability.
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Laudis
posted: 2012-12-24 19:52:48 (ID: 73089) Report Abuse
bellj wrote:
Before you risk losing him, I would sign him to a one-year contract at the price he is asking for. Then next season you can try again with a franchise contract.


Thanks, this is probably a bit expensive, but the safest option now.
Thanks :-)
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Laudis
posted: 2012-12-24 19:53:58 (ID: 73090) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
wiesengrund wrote:
Yes, you have to pay up a bit, but considering that binding him to a wage level for 5 years accounts for a lot of wage raises hew could get over that time period with skill based wages. I.e. he is more expensive now than with skill wages, but after 2 or 3 years he breaks even and would have been more expensive with skill wages. Years 4 and 5 he is a bargain.
thats the concept


I know, but this wasnt the question.
Anyway thanks for refreshment
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Laudis
posted: 2012-12-24 20:00:30 (ID: 73091) Report Abuse
cantalupe wrote:
When giving franchise contract you have to give him 1,5-2x more then his current wage is. At least that's my experience.


Wow, this is a big difference 1,5 -2 times more.
I remember also another franchise man asked me for 29k when he was stg around 16k skill and an offer of 20k satisfied him (4th try). But dont remember his old wage.

The current issue man (solved) had wage 28k, skill 31,8 and 39k offer wasnt enough... I had to train him now very carefully to not kill my budget next year.
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