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oddball
posted: 2013-01-16 16:57:41 (ID: 76865) Report Abuse
this is really pissing me off now.

right here goes.

season 1 halfway through the season i decide to switch to contracts.
i agree for the players this season and another, which is season 2.

I then at the end of season 2 have to renegotiate all my contracts again, which will be this season, which i already previously negotiated and the next 1.
Being rational i would think as a player and manager you would be negotiating for season 3&4. Instead the system makes you overlap your negotiations which is arse about face or lose your players on rollover.

Last edited on 2013-01-16 16:58:29 by oddball

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posted: 2013-01-16 17:05:27 (ID: 76869) Report Abuse
oddball wrote:
this is really pissing me off now.

right here goes.

season 1 halfway through the season i decide to switch to contracts.
i agree for the players this season and another, which is season 2.

I then at the end of season 2 have to renegotiate all my contracts again, which will be this season, which i already previously negotiated and the next 1.
Being rational i would think as a player and manager you would be negotiating for season 3&4. Instead the system makes you overlap your negotiations which is arse about face or lose your players on rollover.


No reason for being pissed

Read it like this: you negotiate for the rest of the current season and X seasons after it. Makes sense now?

If not, please try to user other words, since I dont understand where the confusion is coming from

Again, dont be pissed, just blame my "great" english skills - once more
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bwadders76
posted: 2013-01-16 17:06:46 (ID: 76871) Report Abuse
oddball wrote:
this is really pissing me off now.

right here goes.

season 1 halfway through the season i decide to switch to contracts.
i agree for the players this season and another, which is season 2.

I then at the end of season 2 have to renegotiate all my contracts again, which will be this season, which i already previously negotiated and the next 1.
Being rational i would think as a player and manager you would be negotiating for season 3&4. Instead the system makes you overlap your negotiations which is arse about face or lose your players on rollover.


I think I can see Oddballs point here. He has already negotiated a contract for the current season so even if he renegotiates on Saturday the player in reality still has one more payment of his old contract.

On the other hand though if he doesn't renegotiate until Sunday or Monday then quite rightly the player is a free agent and leaves.

Oddball I think you need to apply it as if it was our football ie the player has a great season so the contract is upgraded with x number of weeks still to run. Therefore his new contract comes into effect from the date of negotiation not from the end of the current contract.

Last edited on 2013-01-16 17:07:52 by bwadders76

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Nogard
posted: 2013-01-16 17:08:10 (ID: 76872) Report Abuse
see it as you negotiate an 1 year extension. and with extensions mostly the money will grow up for the rest of the old contract from the time the player signs.
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oddball
posted: 2013-01-16 17:08:28 (ID: 76873) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
oddball wrote:
this is really pissing me off now.

right here goes.

season 1 halfway through the season i decide to switch to contracts.
i agree for the players this season and another, which is season 2.

I then at the end of season 2 have to renegotiate all my contracts again, which will be this season, which i already previously negotiated and the next 1.
Being rational i would think as a player and manager you would be negotiating for season 3&4. Instead the system makes you overlap your negotiations which is arse about face or lose your players on rollover.


No reason for being pissed

Read it like this: you negotiate for the rest of the current season and X seasons after it. Makes sense now?

If not, please try to user other words, since I dont understand where the confusion is coming from

Again, dont be pissed, just blame my "great" english skills - once more


its not really your wording its how its done if thats how it is. but its a very Irish way of negotiating a contract.
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sfniner08
posted: 2013-01-16 17:13:54 (ID: 76875) Report Abuse
I'm still hazy on what the issue is.

You aren't paying more, well I suppose a week that player would make a small amount more than they would have, but it is so small I can't see that the issue.

Time wise it isn't that much time to do contracts. I don't think that is the issue.

If I have player A and his contract is say 5000 per u p d a t e for the remainder of this season. I renegotiate his contract to say 8000 per u p d a t e the night before rollover for this season and next. I will pay 3000 more than he would have, but right after rollover I can renegotiate it again for whatever number of seasons I can. So it is only 1 u p d a t e he would make a small amount more.
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posted: 2013-01-16 17:19:48 (ID: 76879) Report Abuse
oddball wrote:
pete wrote:
oddball wrote:
this is really pissing me off now.

right here goes.

season 1 halfway through the season i decide to switch to contracts.
i agree for the players this season and another, which is season 2.

I then at the end of season 2 have to renegotiate all my contracts again, which will be this season, which i already previously negotiated and the next 1.
Being rational i would think as a player and manager you would be negotiating for season 3&4. Instead the system makes you overlap your negotiations which is arse about face or lose your players on rollover.


No reason for being pissed

Read it like this: you negotiate for the rest of the current season and X seasons after it. Makes sense now?

If not, please try to user other words, since I dont understand where the confusion is coming from

Again, dont be pissed, just blame my "great" english skills - once more


its not really your wording its how its done if thats how it is. but its a very Irish way of negotiating a contract.


Can we agree that is like this:

1.) you wont pay double for the same week
2.) from the negotiation your pay the new weekly salary to that player
3.) there is no "seasonal contract", since you pay weekly

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Ranagol
posted: 2013-01-20 18:34:40 (ID: 77532) Report Abuse
So how DO you renegotiate contracts?

All I see is a bunch of "protocol" buttons and even if I click them nothing happens. But I remember doing the same last season with one of my players and the button changed to "start" and could negotiate from scratch (even though the player had a contract until season 8).
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Warlord99
posted: 2013-01-20 18:40:41 (ID: 77536) Report Abuse
hey quick question; the contracts expire at the end of each season; not the beginning right? or am i wrong on that one
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Lamumia
posted: 2013-01-20 18:45:06 (ID: 77539) Report Abuse
Ranagol wrote:
So how DO you renegotiate contracts?

All I see is a bunch of "protocol" buttons and even if I click them nothing happens. But I remember doing the same last season with one of my players and the button changed to "start" and could negotiate from scratch (even though the player had a contract until season 8).


If it doesn't say start his contract isn't expirering, so you cant negotiate


Warlord99 wrote:
hey quick question; the contracts expire at the end of each season; not the beginning right? or am i wrong on that one


Yes at the end of the season
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