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dark_wing
posted: 2013-01-31 14:56:09 (ID: 79878) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
wow, a minimal advantage on rating result in a 4 points diff loss - and this is the fact I get filed with a bug report. Don't get it


There are things like momentum, luck, 1 vs 1 situations and so on that decide a game, not a ranking of the whole roster


HELL!
I don't speak about the reuslt of the game!
As I wrote, it was the 1-st game wich looks like real football!

We are have 5 ranking by the lines. And overal.
Team A is stronger in 4 lines.
In 1 line teams are same.
But team B is stronger in overal.
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dark_wing
posted: 2013-01-31 15:00:23 (ID: 79879) Report Abuse
preachie wrote:
I think the confusion comes from the fact that Team A has a better rating than Team B in each area (except one where both are equal) but in overall rating Team B has a better rating.

Have to say it confuses me too


Yes, of coruse!
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posted: 2013-01-31 15:52:54 (ID: 79883) Report Abuse
preachie wrote:
I think the confusion comes from the fact that Team A has a better rating than Team B in each area (except one where both are equal) but in overall rating Team B has a better rating.

Have to say it confuses me too
the avg is built based on # of players behind each part - confusion wiped away?
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posted: 2013-01-31 15:55:14 (ID: 79884) Report Abuse
dark_wing wrote:
pete wrote:
wow, a minimal advantage on rating result in a 4 points diff loss - and this is the fact I get filed with a bug report. Don't get it


There are things like momentum, luck, 1 vs 1 situations and so on that decide a game, not a ranking of the whole roster


HELL!
I don't speak about the reuslt of the game!
As I wrote, it was the 1-st game wich looks like real football!

We are have 5 ranking by the lines. And overal.
Team A is stronger in 4 lines.
In 1 line teams are same.
But team B is stronger in overal.
darkwing, nothing personal, but your posting style can be annoying sometimes...why dont you put a serious question in here???

this would avoid such misunderstandings really
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posted: 2013-01-31 16:22:13 (ID: 79895) Report Abuse
I think the main question is:

How is each number calculated, that at the end with the overall ranking of the team with the better rankings in each area can be less than that other team.

Obviously those area ranking do have players involved which are counted on more than one area.

Maybe there is a weighting system in the areas (like passing -> qb rating is counted * 1,2 and FB maybe with 0.8) and in the overall system it is not (so all do count with weight 1 and at the end there is an average by #players on the roster or always 55)?
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posted: 2013-01-31 19:35:05 (ID: 79930) Report Abuse
It is just the average rating of the guys involved in a group...

On the overall it is not (pass + passd + rush + rushd + specialteam)/5, it takes the players per group into account, since the specialteam rating would kill the average..
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dark_wing
posted: 2013-02-01 13:59:55 (ID: 80123) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
dark_wing wrote:
pete wrote:
wow, a minimal advantage on rating result in a 4 points diff loss - and this is the fact I get filed with a bug report. Don't get it


There are things like momentum, luck, 1 vs 1 situations and so on that decide a game, not a ranking of the whole roster


HELL!
I don't speak about the reuslt of the game!
As I wrote, it was the 1-st game wich looks like real football!

We are have 5 ranking by the lines. And overal.
Team A is stronger in 4 lines.
In 1 line teams are same.
But team B is stronger in overal.
darkwing, nothing personal, but your posting style can be annoying sometimes...why dont you put a serious question in here???

this would avoid such misunderstandings really


Why this issue is not serious?
Some managers use the ratings for team developing.
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dark_wing
posted: 2013-02-01 14:09:05 (ID: 80125) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
preachie wrote:
I think the confusion comes from the fact that Team A has a better rating than Team B in each area (except one where both are equal) but in overall rating Team B has a better rating.

Have to say it confuses me too
the avg is built based on # of players behind each part - confusion wiped away?


No.
If team A stronger in 4 parts.
And teams are equal in 1 parts.
The team A must be the stronger in overal. (from mathematiсal point of view).

I do not speak about (pass + passd + rush + rushd + specialteam)/5
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Grzymisław
posted: 2013-02-01 15:35:07 (ID: 80134) Report Abuse
dark_wing wrote:
pete wrote:
preachie wrote:
I think the confusion comes from the fact that Team A has a better rating than Team B in each area (except one where both are equal) but in overall rating Team B has a better rating.

Have to say it confuses me too
the avg is built based on # of players behind each part - confusion wiped away?


No.
If team A stronger in 4 parts.
And teams are equal in 1 parts.
The team A must be the stronger in overal. (from mathematiсal point of view).

I do not speak about (pass + passd + rush + rushd + specialteam)/5

Dark Wing - it's possible their rating is higher then, because you have only 2 special team members while they have 6.
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pete
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posted: 2013-02-01 15:36:42 (ID: 80136) Report Abuse
dark_wing wrote:
pete wrote:
dark_wing wrote:
pete wrote:
wow, a minimal advantage on rating result in a 4 points diff loss - and this is the fact I get filed with a bug report. Don't get it


There are things like momentum, luck, 1 vs 1 situations and so on that decide a game, not a ranking of the whole roster


HELL!
I don't speak about the reuslt of the game!
As I wrote, it was the 1-st game wich looks like real football!

We are have 5 ranking by the lines. And overal.
Team A is stronger in 4 lines.
In 1 line teams are same.
But team B is stronger in overal.
darkwing, nothing personal, but your posting style can be annoying sometimes...why dont you put a serious question in here???

this would avoid such misunderstandings really


Why this issue is not serious?
Some managers use the ratings for team developing.


You are posting like this


"Watch this! Why?"

Couldnt you post like this:

"Watch that game! Why the averages of the rating are calculated this way, why a team having less good rating than the other, has finally a better overall rating?"

It wouldnt be that msileading, wouldnt leave me alone on answering a question, and doing that wrong because of missing information. And nobody said the issue was not serious! But you never put in a "well formed" question in your post.

However...it is on you. Better questions and more details result in faster and correct answers...now you
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