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posted: 2013-02-01 15:37:29 (ID: 80137) Report Abuse
dark_wing wrote:
pete wrote:
preachie wrote:
I think the confusion comes from the fact that Team A has a better rating than Team B in each area (except one where both are equal) but in overall rating Team B has a better rating.

Have to say it confuses me too
the avg is built based on # of players behind each part - confusion wiped away?


No.
If team A stronger in 4 parts.
And teams are equal in 1 parts.
The team A must be the stronger in overal. (from mathematiсal point of view).

I do not speak about (pass + passd + rush + rushd + specialteam)/5


Sorry, but this is....bullshit. If I built an average over ALL involved players the single grouped ratings dont matter!
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posted: 2013-02-01 20:25:22 (ID: 80198) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
dark_wing wrote:
pete wrote:
preachie wrote:
I think the confusion comes from the fact that Team A has a better rating than Team B in each area (except one where both are equal) but in overall rating Team B has a better rating.

Have to say it confuses me too
the avg is built based on # of players behind each part - confusion wiped away?


No.
If team A stronger in 4 parts.
And teams are equal in 1 parts.
The team A must be the stronger in overal. (from mathematiсal point of view).

I do not speak about (pass + passd + rush + rushd + specialteam)/5


Sorry, but this is....bullshit. If I built an average over ALL involved players the single grouped ratings dont matter!


Sorry, but this is....bullshit.
Then you calculate rating of the 1-st group you use players of this group.
Then you calculate rating of the 2-nd group you use players of this group.
Then you calculate rating of the 3-rd group you use players of this group.
Then you calculate rating of the 4-th group you use players of this group.
Then you calculate rating of the 5-th group you use players of this group.
Then you calculate overal rating you use players of the all 5 groups.
Do you have any education in mathematix and programming???

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pete
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posted: 2013-02-01 21:10:11 (ID: 80202) Report Abuse
watch your tongue and dont attack me in such an offensive way. thank you for your attention.

find the mistake in your math proposal by yourself

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posted: 2013-02-01 21:49:33 (ID: 80205) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
find the mistake in your math proposal by yourself



I can do it.
But I need the blueprint for this.
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posted: 2013-02-01 22:20:20 (ID: 80210) Report Abuse
like this

Gr.A (100+100)/2=100 > Gr.B (95+95+95+95+95)/5=95

Gr.A (10+10+10+10+10)/5=10 > Gr.B (10+9)/2=9,5

but overall Group A (100+100+10+10+10+10+10)/7=35,7 < Group B (95+95+95+95+95+10+9)/7=70,5


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Last edited on 2013-02-01 22:25:05 by Sanco

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posted: 2013-02-01 23:49:02 (ID: 80217) Report Abuse
Sanco wrote:
like this

Gr.A (100+100)/2=100 > Gr.B (95+95+95+95+95)/5=95

Gr.A (10+10+10+10+10)/5=10 > Gr.B (10+9)/2=9,5

but overall Group A (100+100+10+10+10+10+10)/7=35,7 < Group B (95+95+95+95+95+10+9)/7=70,5


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hosh13
posted: 2013-02-02 02:34:12 (ID: 80226) Report Abuse
It would seem the rating system is a little flawed in this case.

As it stands, 4 very good LBs on 1 squad are rated the same as 6 on another - clearly 6 are better than 4.
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posted: 2013-02-02 10:11:02 (ID: 80240) Report Abuse
Sanco wrote:
like this

Gr.A (100+100)/2=100 > Gr.B (95+95+95+95+95)/5=95

Gr.A (10+10+10+10+10)/5=10 > Gr.B (10+9)/2=9,5

but overall Group A (100+100+10+10+10+10+10)/7=35,7 < Group B (95+95+95+95+95+10+9)/7=70,5


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This example is not correct.
Because we are not have the so large difference between players' rating.
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posted: 2013-02-02 10:15:55 (ID: 80241) Report Abuse

Darkwing, you ask the owner and creator of this game if he can program?
How can that NOT be offending and rude?

That simple example did it, I think, to explain the basics.
It CAN happen.

Another question is, if it is right or wrong in your mind, but since this is Peters game ....

@all: I really don't get why everyone is so horny over those ratings. They just help to compare in a raw kind of way.
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posted: 2013-02-02 10:39:45 (ID: 80246) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:

Darkwing, you ask the owner and creator of this game if he can program?
How can that NOT be offending and rude?

That simple example did it, I think, to explain the basics.
It CAN happen.

Another question is, if it is right or wrong in your mind, but since this is Peters game ....

@all: I really don't get why everyone is so horny over those ratings. They just help to compare in a raw kind of way.



WOW.
We have players with rating 3 and 30?
With example where in group A numbers are aprox millions You'll have more interresting results.
And example gives information about big problem in overal rating calculation on the blueprint stage.

You a right raiting system here is incorrect.
But manugers do not have another numbers for team developmant.
And this is the problem.

Last edited on 2013-02-02 10:49:53 by dark_wing

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