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sh8888
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posted: 2013-02-16 17:06:41 (ID: 83424) Report Abuse |
The Internet in N.Korea
This is an interesting article, it tells about the Internet/Computers/Electronic Communication in North Korea. Some of it makes me cringe (you're forced to use an Operating System called 'Red Star' ), but there are some enlightening facts in here. I also thought this quote was really funny :- "In order to make sure the mobile phone frequencies are not being tracked, I would fill up a washbasin with water and put the lid of a rice cooker over my head while I made a phone call," said one interviewee, a 28-year-old man who left the country in November 2010."I don't know if it worked or not, but I was never caught." |
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nobody
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posted: 2013-04-06 12:12:30 (ID: 89914) Report Abuse |
What do you think will happen????
Trigger happy North Korea will send a rocket and make the first mistake !! All in trying to prove that he is mighty !! |
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scottishbronco
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posted: 2013-04-06 17:14:04 (ID: 89947) Report Abuse |
I think that in this day and age, there are too many ways to monitor just what the N Korean's are up to. If America gets a whiff of any sort of nuclear missile set up then they HAVE to act first.
We all know how predator missile happy Obama is, so one dropped on the launch site and N Korea is no more. |
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sh8888
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posted: 2013-04-06 17:19:50 (ID: 89949) Report Abuse |
which reminds me ..... wasn't Missile Command a great game
Source: http://inventwithpython.com/images/missilecommand.gif |
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posted: 2013-04-06 17:39:56 (ID: 89952) Report Abuse | |
TBH, I don't believe this is much more than propaganda from both sides...
The north koreans have to make "some noise", and the US/south korean have to do the same. Finally, north korea is not able to hit the US with their missiles, it is just a question of "no target within range". The US would lose much of their already reduced reputation if they "start" the whole thing. So might be, we see a small clash of korean troups, but in no way a compat with missiles, no nuclear warfare. |
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Ranagol
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posted: 2013-04-06 18:04:23 (ID: 89957) Report Abuse |
What's really happening:
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Xeno72
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posted: 2013-04-07 19:04:48 (ID: 90125) Report Abuse |
My only concern about the whole North Korea situation? What will China's move be?
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posted: 2013-04-07 19:29:57 (ID: 90127) Report Abuse | |
China did quite well - surprisingly...IMO. A little bit of distance and some warnings into the direction of the Koreans...
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KamKhaos
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posted: 2013-04-08 01:32:27 (ID: 90162) Report Abuse |
China won't take a strong or lasting stand against the U.S. any time soon because they are making so much money out of Americans right now. As long as that happens it's strange bedfellows more or less. China is also very pragmatic, unlike Jong-un. They won't oppose militarily until they are assured of total victory and that isn't the case yet. In 25 years they could and probably will mop the floor with everyone who even points their nose up at them. The "superpower" has certainly been shifting. . |
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nobody
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posted: 2013-04-09 12:12:26 (ID: 90340) Report Abuse |
Some thoughts on this...
A nuclear weapon gives off a "signature" if you will. It has to do with various impurities and such in the fissionable or fusion materials. So I have no doubt that the various intelligence agencies around the world got a good view of the N. Korean nukes, including the one that sort of "squibbed" when it didn't fire properly. Even underground tests give a signature from what I can gather. N. Korea has made no secret of its desire to nuke someone, apparently the USA is at the top of that list. Maybe their "dear leader" thinks a nuke will cause the entire country to surrender to him. What seems more likely is that several "boomer" submarines, amongst other nuclear capable weaponry, are ready, willing and able to deliver a fast response. To be sure the first round would go to the North Koreans. They'd get a base, maybe two that belong to the US. From what I can get the North Koreans have missiles capable of reaching US Pacific bases. Whether or not they have a nuclear weapon small enough to mount on one of those missiles is open for some debate. Of course missile delivery is only the fastest method. Who's to say they couldn't crate the thing up, transship it somewhere, and have it arrive in a cargo container? However this would not give the North Koreans any immunity from attack, since the various missile subs (boomers) are difficult if not impossible to find when they are on patrol. But could this happen? Well let's assume, for the sake of argument, that they have a weapon small enough for one of their intermediate range missiles. Now in the USA, and other major nuclear powers, there are all kinds of Permissive Action Links that must be gone through in order to release and launch nukes. This is a good thing, helps to prevent a "Dr. Strangelove" scenario. But do the North Koreans have such controls? Not sure about that. And of course there is the "Bedford Incident" scenario to consider if the controls are lacking. (The "Bedford Incident" was a very scary movie in which a US Navy destroyer is tracking a Russian sub. The destroyer captain has his entire crew wound up to a fever pitch, and when talking to a reporter on the ship (played by Sidney Poitier) the captain says, "If he fires one, I'll fire one." At which point one of the crew, wound up, fires a nuke depth charge (ASROC) at the Russian, who fires nuclear torpedoes back.) So if you have a North Korean military man who hears his "Dear Leader" say he wants to launch, and then does so, what follows is an attack. The US has the capability to track missile launches from countries, which is why space launches from the major nuke powers are always announced in advance. So the launch would be detected. They might even decide to ride it out, to see if the thing goes off. But the response towards North Korea would be, to use a phrase, assymetrical to say the least. Nothing good can come of this. The best simile I can come up with is a four year old sitting there with a loaded gun in his hands, and the hammer is cocked. Someone is going to get hurt. |
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