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Monkey
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posted: 2013-03-02 21:49:26 (ID: 85324) Report Abuse |
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nothing changed from what beat 2 recent league bowl winners in the last 2 league games
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2013-03-02 21:52:32 (ID: 85326) Report Abuse |
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Nogard wrote:
if your opponent runs 50% fron SG4 and pass 50% from SG4 what should your defense expect? your defense should exacly know if your opponent runs or pass when he do both 50:50? lol that´s ridiculous. Erm, no! The D should be balanced so it should not be surprised when a run comes. To me there are 3 times of Dime if you want. - Dime expecting the pass. Safeties are lined-up deep and have their eyes on the QB/WRs, MLB is expecting a pass and also looking at the QB/WRs. - Dime expecting the run. Safeties come closer to the line of scrimmage and look at the FB, ditto the MLB. - Balanced Dime, one of the Safeties would come closer to the line of scrimmage and the other one stay deep, the MLB would be looking at the QB just as much as he'd be looking at the FB. and why should your MLB be allways make a free tackle? ok maybe he isnt really blocked by the OL but maybe the battle between the OG and DT doesnt allowed the MLB to tackle cause he cant run through this battle. Because if there's no room for the MLB to go around the O and D line then there's no room for the FB to go around the O and D line either? If there's a hole the FB will get into it and so will the MLB so it's a one on one tackle opportunity. I struggle to think how the FB could go around the line from the backfield but not the MLB from the other side of the field.  Last edited on 2013-03-02 21:54:24 by Meitheisman |
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hosh13
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posted: 2013-03-02 21:56:40 (ID: 85327) Report Abuse |
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Newsflash - "NFL TEs and RBs seen begging on the streets after all NFL teams announce that they are obsolete!"
Anonymous NFL coach - "Yeah, we don't need any of those TE or RB punks anymore. *Pointing finger aggressively at reporters* We'll line up in the SG4WR buddy ole boy and we'll run it right down your xxxxing throat pal" 
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Nogard
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posted: 2013-03-02 22:06:34 (ID: 85328) Report Abuse |
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Meitheisman wrote:
Erm, no! The D should be balanced so it should not be surprised when a run comes. To me there are 3 times of Dime if you want. - Dime expecting the pass. Safeties are lined-up deep and have their eyes on the QB/WRs, MLB is expecting a pass and also looking at the QB/WRs. - Dime expecting the run. Safeties come closer to the line of scrimmage and look at the FB, ditto the MLB. - Balanced Dime, one of the Safeties would come closer to the line of scrimmage and the other one stay deep, the MLB would be looking at the QB just as much as he'd be looking at the FB. ok if it is so the QB see what the SF do and when they come closer he will pass. Oh wait this decision must made by the engine ingame. so we should deactivate the complete playbook cause the real decision is made by the engine at least and cause the SG4 defense is allways the dime we dont need a def playbook too cause it is allways the same formation only decided by the engine at least if your opponent will pass or run. |
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2013-03-02 22:19:13 (ID: 85331) Report Abuse |
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Nogard wrote:
Meitheisman wrote:
Erm, no! The D should be balanced so it should not be surprised when a run comes. To me there are 3 times of Dime if you want. - Dime expecting the pass. Safeties are lined-up deep and have their eyes on the QB/WRs, MLB is expecting a pass and also looking at the QB/WRs. - Dime expecting the run. Safeties come closer to the line of scrimmage and look at the FB, ditto the MLB. - Balanced Dime, one of the Safeties would come closer to the line of scrimmage and the other one stay deep, the MLB would be looking at the QB just as much as he'd be looking at the FB. ok if it is so the QB see what the SF do and when they come closer he will pass. Oh wait this decision must made by the engine ingame. so we should deactivate the complete playbook cause the real decision is made by the engine at least and cause the SG4 defense is allways the dime we dont need a def playbook too cause it is allways the same formation only decided by the engine at least if your opponent will pass or run. I'm sorry but I don't get that post, would you mind rephrasing it please? And I think you're talking about audibles here and I'm not sure they're in the game, can anyone confirm? And even if they're in the game, audibles work both ways so the QB might audible to a pass when he sees the Safeties come closer to the line but the MLB could audible too and tell the Safeties to go back deep. |
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andrew2scott2
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posted: 2013-03-03 07:36:25 (ID: 85379) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
Newsflash - "NFL TEs and RBs seen begging on the streets after all NFL teams announce that they are obsolete!" Anonymous NFL coach - "Yeah, we don't need any of those TE or RB punks anymore. *Pointing finger aggressively at reporters* We'll line up in the SG4WR buddy ole boy and we'll run it right down your xxxxing throat pal"
Funny stuff I would use RB backs instead of FB but that the way it is on here. lol Form where I sit and why I went to the 4wr all time is the fact of one time. lack of blocking/useless players on run plays . TE useless doesn't block on the run,FB useless doesn't block on run. Center almost useless only blocks against the 5man front. In the passing game your wasting 2 player the FB and RB as they can not go for routs So I said h+ll with it and went to the formation that uses most of it players. And I might mix it up with the signal back once it comes about. Last edited on 2013-03-03 07:37:12 by andrew2scott2 |
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mikemike778
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posted: 2013-03-03 11:22:20 (ID: 85394) Report Abuse |
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Would probably be more balanced if there was a proper blitzing system so you can exploit the reduced number of blockers.
Blitzing in RZA is terrible. Only being allowed to blitz 15% of the time and no option to send multiple players means you can't really consider it part of the game-plan. |
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Monkey
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posted: 2013-03-03 11:25:11 (ID: 85395) Report Abuse |
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andrew2scott2 wrote:
hosh13 wrote:
Newsflash - "NFL TEs and RBs seen begging on the streets after all NFL teams announce that they are obsolete!" Anonymous NFL coach - "Yeah, we don't need any of those TE or RB punks anymore. *Pointing finger aggressively at reporters* We'll line up in the SG4WR buddy ole boy and we'll run it right down your xxxxing throat pal"
Funny stuff I would use RB backs instead of FB but that the way it is on here. lol Form where I sit and why I went to the 4wr all time is the fact of one time. lack of blocking/useless players on run plays . TE useless doesn't block on the run,FB useless doesn't block on run. Center almost useless only blocks against the 5man front. In the passing game your wasting 2 player the FB and RB as they can not go for routs So I said h+ll with it and went to the formation that uses most of it players. And I might mix it up with the signal back once it comes about. all i know is that it was pretty much the most annoying stupid game ive played since engine 1 but at least il never use dime again now so i learnt something from it have you played -TOG-before? that games built for 1 frmation games, maybe thats more at your level of difficulty  |
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hosh13
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posted: 2013-03-03 17:14:48 (ID: 85451) Report Abuse |
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andrew2scott2 wrote:
Form where I sit and why I went to the 4wr all time is the fact of one time. lack of blocking/useless players on run plays . TE useless doesn't block on the run,FB useless doesn't block on run. Center almost useless only blocks against the 5man front. In the passing game your wasting 2 player the FB and RB as they can not go for routs So I said h+ll with it and went to the formation that uses most of it players. And I might mix it up with the signal back once it comes about. For sure, and you only need QB/WR/FB/OL ACs as well and can thus have better ones. The only weakness might be short yardage, and if it isn't then the game is truly broken on this issue. A back without a FB in front of him would get killed in the backfield very often vs short yardage Ds. |
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posted: 2013-03-03 17:19:09 (ID: 85453) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
andrew2scott2 wrote:
Form where I sit and why I went to the 4wr all time is the fact of one time. lack of blocking/useless players on run plays . TE useless doesn't block on the run,FB useless doesn't block on run. Center almost useless only blocks against the 5man front. In the passing game your wasting 2 player the FB and RB as they can not go for routs So I said h+ll with it and went to the formation that uses most of it players. And I might mix it up with the signal back once it comes about. For sure, and you only need QB/WR/FB/OL ACs as well and can thus have better ones. The only weakness might be short yardage, and if it isn't then the game is truly broken on this issue. A back without a FB in front of him would get killed in the backfield very often vs short yardage Ds. Do some research... They do already. I'm lucky if I get 1 yard per carry average with sg4wr vs 4-4/5-3/5-2 or GL defenses. |
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