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sh8888
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posted: 2013-03-27 09:18:30 (ID: 88403) Report Abuse |
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alexshans84 wrote:
Maybe there's a reason why high school teams don't play with the NFL teams in the same league?  "Bashing of newbies" is a problem that should be solved by restructurization of leagues' system not by the artificial limits to players' performance imo. So how would 'restructuring the league system' solve the problem of 'Bashing of Newbies' ? 
or ... more to the point ....Is there actually a problem of 'Bashing of Newbies' ? The only bashing of Newbies that I see is in the SuperCup Qualifying Groups .... and as the SC is supposed to involve all teams there will inevitably be some bashing of Newbies. The League system of 1.x, 2.x, 3.x (combined with promotion/relegation) basically means that Teams will be playing at a similar level of ability/performance. Or are you hinting at a 'SuperLeague' structure ? |
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KingOfTh3Hil
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posted: 2013-03-27 09:21:04 (ID: 88405) Report Abuse |
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sh8888 wrote:
alexshans84 wrote:
Maybe there's a reason why high school teams don't play with the NFL teams in the same league? "Bashing of newbies" is a problem that should be solved by restructurization of leagues' system not by the artificial limits to players' performance imo. So how would 'restructuring the league system' solve the problem of 'Bashing of Newbies' ?
or ... more to the point ....Is there actually a problem of 'Bashing of Newbies' ? The only bashing of Newbies that I see is in the SuperCup Qualifying Groups .... and as the SC is supposed to involve all teams there will inevitably be some bashing of Newbies. The League system of 1.x, 2.x, 3.x (combined with promotion/relegation) basically means that Teams will be playing at a similar level of ability/performance. Or are you hinting at a 'SuperLeague' structure ? i think he means a superleague since there is today some teams that is far superior in every league if compare to the mid teams/lower teams in the same division, but the difference wil be lower for every season.. |
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sh8888
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posted: 2013-03-27 09:29:46 (ID: 88407) Report Abuse |
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KingOfTh3Hil wrote:
i think he means a superleague since there is today some teams that is far superior in every league if compare to the mid teams/lower teams in the same division, but the difference wil be lower for every season.. SuperLeague Suggestion Here I don't agree with your phrase "far superior" ..... I see some Teams with very high Overall Ratings, but under the current Engine, the Overall rating is far less important (than under the V1 "Rushing" Engine, for example). There are plenty of savvy Managers with +/- 50% Overall Ratings that are regularly beating Managers with +/- 55% Overall Ratings. The 'performance spread' between the Top 1.1 teams and the bottom 1.1 Teams is probably the smallest it's ever been. |
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KingOfTh3Hil
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posted: 2013-03-27 09:35:57 (ID: 88410) Report Abuse |
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sh8888 wrote:
KingOfTh3Hil wrote:
i think he means a superleague since there is today some teams that is far superior in every league if compare to the mid teams/lower teams in the same division, but the difference wil be lower for every season.. SuperLeague Suggestion Here I don't agree with your phrase "far superior" ..... I see some Teams with very high Overall Ratings, but under the current Engine, the Overall rating is far less important (than under the V1 "Rushing" Engine, for example). There are plenty of savvy Managers with +/- 50% Overall Ratings that are regularly beating Managers with +/- 55% Overall Ratings. The 'performance spread' between the Top 1.1 teams and the bottom 1.1 Teams is probably the smallest it's ever been. well, by far superior i count the top 10 in each league combare to the bot 10. And i think there is a big difference between those teams. Also i dont think the rankings is totally wrong, it happens all the time in all sports that righer ranked teams on paper lose to a lower ranked team, but the higer ranked team can still be better even if he lose. Teams is starting to hit 60+ and even getting to close to 65 and i think these teams have far better trained players then a 52-55 rated team. But losing is still an posibility. In losing and winning the engine mechanics regardin "luck" and "bad luck" is playing their part aswell.. and yes, i belive thats the suggestion the bears meant  Last edited on 2013-03-27 09:36:48 by KingOfTh3Hil |
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sh8888
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posted: 2013-03-27 09:42:03 (ID: 88412) Report Abuse |
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KingOfTh3Hil wrote:
sh8888 wrote:
KingOfTh3Hil wrote:
i think he means a superleague since there is today some teams that is far superior in every league if compare to the mid teams/lower teams in the same division, but the difference wil be lower for every season.. SuperLeague Suggestion Here I don't agree with your phrase "far superior" ..... I see some Teams with very high Overall Ratings, but under the current Engine, the Overall rating is far less important (than under the V1 "Rushing" Engine, for example). There are plenty of savvy Managers with +/- 50% Overall Ratings that are regularly beating Managers with +/- 55% Overall Ratings. The 'performance spread' between the Top 1.1 teams and the bottom 1.1 Teams is probably the smallest it's ever been. well, by far superior i count the top 10 in each league combare to the bot 10. And i think there is a big difference between those teams. Also i dont think the rankings is totally wrong, it happens all the time in all sports that righer ranked teams on paper lose to a lower ranked team, but the higer ranked team can still be better even if he lose. Teams is starting to hit 60+ and even getting to close to 65 and i think these teams have far better trained players then a 52-55 rated team. But losing is still an posibility. In losing and winning the engine mechanics regardin "luck" and "bad luck" is playing their part aswell.. and yes, i belive thats the suggestion the bears meant It's not how good your overall Rating is, or how good your players are ..... it's what you actually do with them that counts. In my League, I can see some Teams with 56% or 57% Ratings that didn't make the Playoffs, and a Team with 53% Ratings that did. |
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alexshans84
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posted: 2013-03-27 09:51:53 (ID: 88413) Report Abuse |
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KingOfTh3Hil wrote:
and yes, i belive thats the suggestion the bears meant My bears didn't mean anything, they're just waiting for another "win or die" match 
BTW we're going offtopic, so I only say that any "artificial limits" to performance of players is a bad idea in my opinion. |
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sh8888
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posted: 2013-03-27 14:33:11 (ID: 88467) Report Abuse |
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Engine V3 bashing ???
On a serious note ...... I'm liking this Engine more and more. Why ? OK, here's why :- I just played Notsch (Landru Athletics) in a Friendly Cup game (none of that Power Mode shite  ). I think back to Season 2 when Notsch won everything (or almost everything) .... and remember that in those days, you could use MOTY in the knockout stages of Cup competitions .... so that means Notsch probably beat quite a few teams who used MOTY against him (MOTY was more powerful in those days too) 
One of the reasons that he was so successful in Season 2 was that he had a few really good RB's, absolute battering-rams who pounded the Defense into submission. The point is this ..... Today, if I'd have been playing Notsch using the V1 "Rushing" Engine, I would've been slaughtered. But under the V3 Engine, there are many more options, it's much easier to build a balanced team that is quite good on both Offense and Defense, and therefore keeps the opposition on it's toes. If this had been the V1 Engine, I wouldn't have bothered watching ... it would have been bloodshed as Landru just ran right over the top of me .... but it was actually a close game and very good to watch. I still lost  ... but that doesn't matter too much, it's the fact that I was actually competitive that is much more pleasing, and the fact that the game was quite varied and mixed (Rush/Pass/Int's/Incompletions etc etc)
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I am allowed to quote this, Simon?
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sh8888
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posted: 2013-03-27 18:18:47 (ID: 88522) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
I am allowed to quote this, Simon? You can quote it, but you can't misquote it
p.s. - disclaimer : I didn't say that The Engine was perfect, I said that I'm liking it more and more .... until I lose, if I lose it's probably the Engine's fault 
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posted: 2013-04-01 18:40:45 (ID: 89298) Report Abuse |
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Dynamo Patriots vs Athletics - Cup
This is a worthy V3 bashing point right here - SG4WR vs 3-4 - - -> 20 carries for an 8.4 avg INSANE! |
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