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Grzymisław
posted: 2013-04-07 15:16:24 (ID: 90085) Report Abuse
There are differences in each important skills and statistics between them(I won't list exact datas, but can tell you both players are in my team):

"A" is 3,5* CB while "B" is only 3* CB
intelligence: A better by 11
experience: A better by 0,5*
speed: B better by 1
strength: A better by 6
tackling: B better by 8
vision: B better by 8
and in secondary skills which might be also important:
agility: B better by 4
footwork: A better by 1
positioning: B better by 4

So are intelligence and strength so important for CB? I thought before these are secondary factors. What do you think? Isn't it strange?
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posted: 2013-04-07 15:24:46 (ID: 90086) Report Abuse
For strength: Imagine a CB that is fast enough to get within tackle range..but has absolutely no power (=strength) to make the tackle...would be a shame...
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Grzymisław
posted: 2013-04-07 15:26:46 (ID: 90087) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
For strength: Imagine a CB that is fast enough to get within tackle range..but has absolutely no power (=strength) to make the tackle...would be a shame...

Right, but 11 intelligence more and 6 strength more worths more than 8 points more in vision and tackling?
Never say strength not important for CB, just not so important as speed.
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posted: 2013-04-07 15:31:45 (ID: 90088) Report Abuse
Grzymisław wrote:
pete wrote:
For strength: Imagine a CB that is fast enough to get within tackle range..but has absolutely no power (=strength) to make the tackle...would be a shame...

Right, but 11 intelligence more and 6 strength more worths more than 8 points more in vision and tackling?
Never say strength not important for CB, just not so important as speed.


My post was not related to your numbers, just in general, sorry for misunderstandings
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Grzymisław
posted: 2013-04-07 15:39:03 (ID: 90089) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Grzymisław wrote:
pete wrote:
For strength: Imagine a CB that is fast enough to get within tackle range..but has absolutely no power (=strength) to make the tackle...would be a shame...

Right, but 11 intelligence more and 6 strength more worths more than 8 points more in vision and tackling?
Never say strength not important for CB, just not so important as speed.


My post was not related to your numbers, just in general, sorry for misunderstandings

OK. It looks for me strange.
This situation looks like it means intelligence is very important for CB as well as strength. Before I'd rate this skills same as agility or positioning - secondary - and train it when player achieves the level I would like to make his salary stable.
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Ranagol
posted: 2013-04-07 15:44:22 (ID: 90091) Report Abuse
He's more intelligent and more experienced. And maybe it's not even by only 0,5* EXP, there could be some rounding going on there and it's more close to being a 1* difference. Plus it all depends on how much STR the weaker CB has. If it's below 30 then of course he'll end up with broken tackles more often than the other guy.

At least this is how I see it.
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Grzymisław
posted: 2013-04-07 15:52:18 (ID: 90092) Report Abuse
Ranagol wrote:
He's more intelligent and more experienced. And maybe it's not even by only 0,5* EXP, there could be some rounding going on there and it's more close to being a 1* difference. Plus it all depends on how much STR the weaker CB has. If it's below 30 then of course he'll end up with broken tackles more often than the other guy.

At least this is how I see it.

Maybe you're right
Do you think 1* of exp has value of over 10 points of some key skill? Then it could be right than this first one has better rating.
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Buffalo
posted: 2013-04-07 16:23:28 (ID: 90101) Report Abuse
I can say, that intelligence is important for CBs, but it is more important for the rating. High INT has a big weight in the rating calculation.
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mikemike778
posted: 2013-04-07 16:42:07 (ID: 90105) Report Abuse
Grzymisław wrote:
Ranagol wrote:
He's more intelligent and more experienced. And maybe it's not even by only 0,5* EXP, there could be some rounding going on there and it's more close to being a 1* difference. Plus it all depends on how much STR the weaker CB has. If it's below 30 then of course he'll end up with broken tackles more often than the other guy.

At least this is how I see it.

Maybe you're right
Do you think 1* of exp has value of over 10 points of some key skill? Then it could be right than this first one has better rating.


Doesn't Exp act as a multiplier ?

Therefore for a player with 30 tack, vision and pos Exp will count for much more than a player with 20 in all of these.

10% of 30 is more than 10% of 20.
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Buddy Ryan
posted: 2013-04-08 11:01:43 (ID: 90200) Report Abuse
Grzymisław wrote:
pete wrote:
Grzymisław wrote:
pete wrote:
For strength: Imagine a CB that is fast enough to get within tackle range..but has absolutely no power (=strength) to make the tackle...would be a shame...

Right, but 11 intelligence more and 6 strength more worths more than 8 points more in vision and tackling?
Never say strength not important for CB, just not so important as speed.


My post was not related to your numbers, just in general, sorry for misunderstandings

OK. It looks for me strange.
This situation looks like it means intelligence is very important for CB as well as strength. Before I'd rate this skills same as agility or positioning - secondary - and train it when player achieves the level I would like to make his salary stable.


everyone in coverage needs high Intelligence (or does anyone know about another documented instance where intelligence acutally counts, other than the Interception-Formula?) and therefore I would see no reason why INT should be valued less @ CB that @ LB. I think CBs need even more INT than SF in RZA, since no one really passes deep into their area. and everyone on defense (=everyone that tackles) needs STR - even more so if they are expected to shed blocks (=DL)

Last edited on 2013-04-08 18:30:18 by Buddy Ryan

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