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posted: 2013-04-16 12:57:44 (ID: 91450) Report Abuse
Lamumia wrote:
pete wrote:
argh...found something. Could have done the full u p d a t e instead only the half of it.

See, I ran several thousand tests of course automated) on the new formations, and found not such big differences.

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Does that mean that you are not done updating for the new season?


Now I am...just the balancing table was missing in the database

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posted: 2013-04-16 13:00:25 (ID: 91451) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Lamumia wrote:
pete wrote:
argh...found something. Could have done the full u p d a t e instead only the half of it.

See, I ran several thousand tests of course automated) on the new formations, and found not such big differences.

Getting old


Does that mean that you are not done updating for the new season?


Now I am...just the balancing table was missing in the database


So the tests I did yesterday and sunday with scrimmages are pretty much worthless now?
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posted: 2013-04-16 13:01:49 (ID: 91453) Report Abuse
Lamumia wrote:
pete wrote:
Lamumia wrote:
pete wrote:
argh...found something. Could have done the full u p d a t e instead only the half of it.

See, I ran several thousand tests of course automated) on the new formations, and found not such big differences.

Getting old


Does that mean that you are not done updating for the new season?


Now I am...just the balancing table was missing in the database


So the tests I did yesterday and sunday with scrimmages are pretty much worthless now?


depends on what you did test. If you were on the new formations, yes, useless
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posted: 2013-04-16 13:03:16 (ID: 91454) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Lamumia wrote:
pete wrote:
Lamumia wrote:
pete wrote:
argh...found something. Could have done the full u p d a t e instead only the half of it.

See, I ran several thousand tests of course automated) on the new formations, and found not such big differences.

Getting old


Does that mean that you are not done updating for the new season?


Now I am...just the balancing table was missing in the database


So the tests I did yesterday and sunday with scrimmages are pretty much worthless now?


depends on what you did test. If you were on the new formations, yes, useless


Yeah it was on the new formations so
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posted: 2013-04-16 13:07:19 (ID: 91455) Report Abuse
Some more details:

The balancing itself was odd. This means the behavior of the formations, how they work left or right, short or deep play, are still valid from your test. The same is valid for the interaction vs other formations, like it is better to defend deep or strong versus a formation.

Odd was the outcome of the players interaction in such formations. Thsi means the LB might be stronger than it should, or the RB weaker than it should, such things are covered by the balancing matrix, which was at "0" for the new formations...
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posted: 2013-04-16 13:13:40 (ID: 91456) Report Abuse
So if I simply tested how their effectiveness against the different deffensive formations, it shouldn't be way of? Is that correct understood?

I didn't do anything fancy like testing sides or medium/deep passes, just plain running and passing letting it be up to the engine to decide sides and length of passes.
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posted: 2013-04-16 13:22:01 (ID: 91459) Report Abuse
Lamumia wrote:
So if I simply tested how their effectiveness against the different deffensive formations, it shouldn't be way of? Is that correct understood?

I didn't do anything fancy like testing sides or medium/deep passes, just plain running and passing letting it be up to the engine to decide sides and length of passes.


Depends: if you just judge by "yards outcome", your results are not worth to store them. If you created kind of a matrix for "left is 10% better on Flexbone vs 3-3.5" the result is still valid

Disclaimer: just an example, no valid numbers!
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posted: 2013-04-16 13:25:16 (ID: 91460) Report Abuse
OK thanks
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posted: 2013-04-16 14:04:10 (ID: 91461) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Lamumia wrote:Does that mean that you are not done updating for the new season?


Now I am...just the balancing table was missing in the database


Pete, I've two scrimmages: at 14:00 and at 15:00
The balancing table is ok for both?
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posted: 2013-04-16 14:31:37 (ID: 91463) Report Abuse
panoramix wrote:
pete wrote:
Lamumia wrote:Does that mean that you are not done updating for the new season?


Now I am...just the balancing table was missing in the database


Pete, I've two scrimmages: at 14:00 and at 15:00
The balancing table is ok for both?


At least I played one already, and it was looking good.
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