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sfniner08
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posted: 2013-08-21 16:06:32 (ID: 100004179) Report Abuse |
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Playbook makes a HUGE difference, there is no dice roll about it. I've made many, many playbooks and I've ran many, many scrimmages to test them. The best one that works is the 4wrsg, but if you spent 10 minutes scouting it you would see how predictable it is. Playbooks don't work the same as they used to in the beginning when it was run, run, run, run, run, pass, run, run, run......then it was simple. Now passing does work which makes scouting more important (I don't scout as much as I should myself). The new addition of the by quarter report on the game summary page will help a lot with that. Don't despair (damn depressing reading that someone is just looking forward to the YA points or that the perception is that it is just a dice roll), hand in there, scout games, and try to have some fun.
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canonico
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posted: 2013-08-21 16:51:46 (ID: 100004185) Report Abuse |
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sfniner08 wrote:
Playbook makes a HUGE difference, there is no dice roll about it. I've made many, many playbooks and I've ran many, many scrimmages to test them. The best one that works is the 4wrsg, but if you spent 10 minutes scouting it you would see how predictable it is. Playbooks don't work the same as they used to in the beginning when it was run, run, run, run, run, pass, run, run, run......then it was simple. Now passing does work which makes scouting more important (I don't scout as much as I should myself). The new addition of the by quarter report on the game summary page will help a lot with that. Don't despair (damn depressing reading that someone is just looking forward to the YA points or that the perception is that it is just a dice roll), hand in there, scout games, and try to have some fun. Don't know if you realize that both their teams are 10-1 in the league. And the Gladiators are 11-0 in the SC while Tarjan's team is 10-1. So it's not like they are losing games because they aren't putting any effort in it, which they should be...So yeah, I kind of see their point. |
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canonico
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posted: 2013-08-21 16:53:31 (ID: 100004187) Report Abuse |
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Meitheisman wrote:
canonico wrote:
Yeah, but people just stopped posting out of the blue, a couple of seasons ago it was preety decent, now it's the worst I've seen. Sometimes time is against posting, but I can alsways find some time to post a bit of trash talk or something. Just makes it more fun. I do come in here every now and then to read what's being said fwiw but I rarely have anything to add to the discussion which is why I don't post most of the time. Your updates were a good read btw, I enjoyed them  Posting about your team games is a start man. I enjoy reading that, your own view on how a certain game went for your team, it's cool. And thanks, but it took too much of my time and it wasn't generating any activity, hence I stopped. |
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alexshans84
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posted: 2013-08-21 17:43:24 (ID: 100004191) Report Abuse |
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KingOfTh3Hil wrote:
All these players that only use 1 or 2 formations each game is causing 80% of the things thats irritating, like ASU Bears... Nothing against you ASU but i just think that kind of strategy is nowhere close and should not be allowed in the game of American football, maybe only in regular soccer. Fair enough. But I disagree that using of 1 or 2 formations here should not be allowed. What really irritating is FBs who don't block on run plays, TEs who block but only if defender crushed behind the LOS, HBs who do nothing on pass plays... Is it realistic? Why the hell I should bother to use different formations if 50/50 run/pass Shotgun 4 WR does very well? |
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canonico
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posted: 2013-08-21 19:09:20 (ID: 100004212) Report Abuse |
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alexshans84 wrote:
KingOfTh3Hil wrote:
All these players that only use 1 or 2 formations each game is causing 80% of the things thats irritating, like ASU Bears... Nothing against you ASU but i just think that kind of strategy is nowhere close and should not be allowed in the game of American football, maybe only in regular soccer. Fair enough. But I disagree that using of 1 or 2 formations here should not be allowed. What really irritating is FBs who don't block on run plays, TEs who block but only if defender crushed behind the LOS, HBs who do nothing on pass plays... Is it realistic? Why the hell I should bother to use different formations if 50/50 run/pass Shotgun 4 WR does very well? Preety sure he meant that it shouldn't do very well. And not that it shouldn't be allowed. Every formation is allowed, and it should continue to be, but seriously, running a 50/50 4 WR formation with that kind of success should be stopped at once, it is bad for the game that teams can basicaly do that and win championships. |
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alexshans84
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posted: 2013-08-21 19:18:58 (ID: 100004214) Report Abuse |
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canonico wrote:
Preety sure he meant that it shouldn't do very well. And not that it shouldn't be allowed. Every formation is allowed, and it should continue to be, but seriously, running a 50/50 4 WR formation with that kind of success should be stopped at once, it is bad for the game that teams can basicaly do that and win championships. Agree with the bold text |
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KingOfTh3Hil
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posted: 2013-08-22 07:40:32 (ID: 100004261) Report Abuse |
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sfniner08 wrote:
Playbook makes a HUGE difference, well no it does not, you like passing? ok sure, good. You and your opponent have like 40 passing attemts and maybe 30 rushing attempts each, ok its fair. Now, here is the tricky part. Plz try to follow. I go after my own teams perspective, since i sometimes scout my opponent, not that much this season tho. I usually (not always, and sometimes its even) are the stronger one in both pass offense and pass defense. The game starts, oh intressting, lets wait untill the end, shall we 
but look! my team complete around 17-19 passes on 40 attempts? opponent? yea, he managed to have 24-25 completions in 40 attempts and those few extra 5-8 completions did make an extra 40-90 yards, thus he won the game. Now i get it that this can all happen so thats not where it itches, its that regardless of your playbook, how you construct it with formations, runs, passes it really dosent make that much of a differense. Since its the team that compleate most passes that usually wins, or i put it the other way, Teams that dosent compleate the passes they usually do works uphill. And i can tell you from my own experience that 2 QB with skills over 40, high int and good fysicals + a few WR/TE (4-5) with catching around 45, other skills around 30-40, good fysicals and decent int to average it does help with that. But the opponents defence have gotten better aswell you say? yea, but i have the same passing completion against bots. Lets put in some int and 50+ td, yea its no problem either since these things happends aswell, but you cannot do anything against it since its just random. And in a close game against equally opponents, 1 int or 1 long td pass can make the difference, or what do you think about a missed FG from 24 yards from a K that got high skills,int and experience that made you loose by 2 points? Last edited on 2013-08-22 07:47:56 by KingOfTh3Hil |
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2013-08-22 15:16:05 (ID: 100004294) Report Abuse |
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The completion % is ridiculously low yeah and there seems to be only a very small difference between playing a BOT and one of the best human teams in the game which is very frustrating.
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KingOfTh3Hil
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posted: 2013-08-22 15:30:49 (ID: 100004297) Report Abuse |
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so now we have atleast made some noice again in the forums.
But Fire division is so BOORING! in 8 seasons time now there have been like only me (gladiators), Magpies, Lambruchia and ASU that have been the powerhouses, (4 out of 32 teams) and we still are. We got more improvements to make aswell since most of our players is around 24-26 years old so we will probably be on top a few more seasons to come. Lions is starting to catch up and underachievers isent far behind but thats about it. But just look at AC. Like really, what games is there to look forward to? (from my point of view that is) I dont even know what teams thats new in top division this year, much less the ones that did relegate. The difference even at the top 4 compared to the rest of the top 10 is ridiculus high. Dont even get me started on top 20 teams. even the playoffs isent worth any notice since im pretty confident that the only team that can kick me out is magpies, and ofcourse the opponent in the bowl game, but whats to be proud of in winning the fire league bowl when there is so little competition? And the winner will probably be the one with most completed passes and least int´s  |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2013-08-22 18:34:26 (ID: 100004318) Report Abuse |
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Dragons was becoming boring for a while because the Pigs kept winning every season for 6 or 7 in a row. This last season we had a new winner and it seems like a shift is in the wind as in the rematch of the two teams this last week Pigs got very lucky with 2 quick turnovers to win in the 4th quarter. There are perhaps 5 teams with a shot this year. Playbooks seem to be rising in terms of importance.....
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