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sh8888
posted: 2012-05-05 11:40:53 (ID: 38522) Report Abuse
dark_wing wrote:
panoramix wrote:
Wait for the draft and sell your best drafted player.
Then build your stadium and play!


After some thinking, I can say: "It is a perfect idea!"
To sell 2 or 3 players from the draft. By 50+ mil price.
Build up stadium.
And by ~5-7 players with good main skills, but low talant and teamwork.
by 2-3 mil price!


I laughed when I read this post ... and here is why :-

I just looked at dark_wing's transfer history and roster history. Dark_Wing has 6 Draft players (all still on his roster) , and he's bought 2 draft players for $113 Million and $40+ Million.

So ...dark_wing is saying "sell your draft players" but he hasn't sold a single draft player and he's actually bought two additional draft players (for big money).

and if you think I'm having a swipe at dark_wing, I'm not ...because there are other people posting in this thread who seem to be saying "sell your draft players" but they themselves are big buyers of draft players in the transfer market.

I don't know about you guys, but if somebody advises me to do one thing and then does exactly the opposite himself, I'd be a little wary of taking the advice


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Lokkier
posted: 2012-05-05 11:44:56 (ID: 38523) Report Abuse
Gotcha!
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JonnyP
posted: 2012-05-05 12:11:06 (ID: 38524) Report Abuse
sh8888 wrote:
dark_wing wrote:
panoramix wrote:
Wait for the draft and sell your best drafted player.
Then build your stadium and play!


After some thinking, I can say: "It is a perfect idea!"
To sell 2 or 3 players from the draft. By 50+ mil price.
Build up stadium.
And by ~5-7 players with good main skills, but low talant and teamwork.
by 2-3 mil price!


I laughed when I read this post ... and here is why :-

I just looked at dark_wing's transfer history and roster history. Dark_Wing has 6 Draft players (all still on his roster) , and he's bought 2 draft players for $113 Million and $40+ Million.

So ...dark_wing is saying "sell your draft players" but he hasn't sold a single draft player and he's actually bought two additional draft players (for big money).

and if you think I'm having a swipe at dark_wing, I'm not ...because there are other people posting in this thread who seem to be saying "sell your draft players" but they themselves are big buyers of draft players in the transfer market.

I don't know about you guys, but if somebody advises me to do one thing and then does exactly the opposite himself, I'd be a little wary of taking the advice




As has also been said on this thread, I would approach the game differently if I started now, knowing what I do, as the game conditions are very different to when I began last October.

There's no ulterior motive in my advice, just plain common sense.
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dark_wing
posted: 2012-05-05 13:47:15 (ID: 38529) Report Abuse
sh8888 wrote:

I laughed when I read this post ... and here is why :-

I just looked at dark_wing's transfer history and roster history. Dark_Wing has 6 Draft players (all still on his roster) , and he's bought 2 draft players for $113 Million and $40+ Million.

So ...dark_wing is saying "sell your draft players" but he hasn't sold a single draft player and he's actually bought two additional draft players (for big money).

and if you think I'm having a swipe at dark_wing, I'm not ...because there are other people posting in this thread who seem to be saying "sell your draft players" but they themselves are big buyers of draft players in the transfer market.

I don't know about you guys, but if somebody advises me to do one thing and then does exactly the opposite himself, I'd be a little wary of taking the advice


Because Kharkiv Atlantes is very strong and rich team.
One of super-stars hunters.
I can to sell some of players drafed by me.
Are any one want to buy a Punter with 90K+ salarie?
But look at my transfer history again.
Where are some player sold by me.
3 of them - good developed players, real leaders for rookie team.
Prices was 2 mil, 1,1 mil, 7,2 mil.

Many well developed players are on sale now. They are have good main and phisical skills but bad talant and/or teamwork. As result they are selling with low prices.

If new team not sell drafted players - it will have 3 very strong players.
But if it sell drafted players - it can buy form 5 up to 10 or more strong players. Build up stadium and YA. Hire some coaches.

Last edited on 2012-05-05 14:02:10 by dark_wing

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sh8888
posted: 2012-05-05 14:00:11 (ID: 38533) Report Abuse
dark_wing wrote:
Because Kharkiv Atlantes is very strong and rich team.


For sure it is ....and maybe the reason it's a very strong team is that you didn't sell any Draft players, but you bought another 2 draft players and therefore you have 8 draft players in total ... maybe that's one of the main reasons you're so strong ??

p.s. - would you be so strong if you'd done as you yourself suggested and sold 2 to 3 draft players and replaced them with 5 to 7 cheaper players ??

edit - I also missed an obvious point ... you say that you're a "rich team" and you haven't sold any Draft players ...therefore why would anyone else need to sell draft players to get rich, you've proved that you can get rich without selling your best players

Last edited on 2012-05-05 14:14:11 by sh8888

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Turtlemania
posted: 2012-05-05 14:49:47 (ID: 38546) Report Abuse
No one is wrong or right in this topic.

It depend on the mood of the "new manager"

Ishe patient# Then keep players, build easy in first season stadium to full what is possible easy

Is he unpatient? Sell a intersting draftee and invest into stadium

Way 1: better player potential but no spending makes sense otherwise than stadium in first 2-3 months

Way 2: fast economic stable and independent, can even start buy early interesting young development player to improve team, but all at cost of having one draft player less

Both can work and if i would start over again i would keep for sure key position players - maybe sell only KP draftee what can get also a few nice millions
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Lee1950
posted: 2012-05-05 15:49:18 (ID: 38547) Report Abuse
Turtlemania wrote:
No one is wrong or right in this topic.

It depend on the mood of the "new manager"

Ishe patient# Then keep players, build easy in first season stadium to full what is possible easy

Is he unpatient? Sell a intersting draftee and invest into stadium

Way 1: better player potential but no spending makes sense otherwise than stadium in first 2-3 months

Way 2: fast economic stable and independent, can even start buy early interesting young development player to improve team, but all at cost of having one draft player less

Both can work and if i would start over again i would keep for sure key position players - maybe sell only KP draftee what can get also a few nice millions

I always advise the "Way 1", but this thread has me thinking that "Way 2" might be better (if you sell the right draftee and the market stays hot).

kudos to pete to giving us a game with many paths to world dominance.
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dark_wing
posted: 2012-05-05 17:10:05 (ID: 38553) Report Abuse
sh8888 wrote:
For sure it is ....and maybe the reason it's a very strong team is that you didn't sell any Draft players, but you bought another 2 draft players and therefore you have 8 draft players in total ... maybe that's one of the main reasons you're so strong ??

p.s. - would you be so strong if you'd done as you yourself suggested and sold 2 to 3 draft players and replaced them with 5 to 7 cheaper players ??

edit - I also missed an obvious point ... you say that you're a "rich team" and you haven't sold any Draft players ...therefore why would anyone else need to sell draft players to get rich, you've proved that you can get rich without selling your best players


Ofcourse, Atlantes not so rich team after 113M transfer.
But, I am sure, my team is strong, because It is not a team builded around few super-stars. Atlantes strong as the team!

After the 1st draft my team recived K, P, and FB!
But I bought lot of good and pespective players before!
Look at my transfer history again.
I am sure my the 1st draft was a worst draft in RZA. But after this I played a very good season in very strong division. As result #1 by raiting whole RZA! (With K, P and FB from the draft).

So, if I sold 2 or 3 of them - my team would be as is strong.
Why I do not sold them? Because the prices at that time were absolutely low. To sell player from the draft was eq to 2-3 times sold out stadium.


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dark_wing
posted: 2012-05-05 17:36:32 (ID: 38554) Report Abuse
Turtlemania wrote:
No one is wrong or right in this topic.

It depend on the mood of the "new manager"

Ishe patient# Then keep players, build easy in first season stadium to full what is possible easy

Is he unpatient? Sell a intersting draftee and invest into stadium

Way 1: better player potential but no spending makes sense otherwise than stadium in first 2-3 months

Way 2: fast economic stable and independent, can even start buy early interesting young development player to improve team, but all at cost of having one draft player less

Both can work and if i would start over again i would keep for sure key position players - maybe sell only KP draftee what can get also a few nice millions


So super-star:
Strength 28.4 Positioning 14.3 Vision 23.2
Speed 43.6 Tackling 24.2 Blocking 6.4
Agility 10.6 Carrying 11.6 Catching 6.6
Kicking 11.2 Punting 12.8 Footwork 10,4 Passing 8.6 Teamwork 49.3 Intelligence 50.0
He was sold for 113mil.

If to sell him, new team can buy many defenders like this.
Strength 25.4 Positioning 12.3 Vision 15.2
Speed 25.6 Tackling 19.8 Blocking 6.4
Agility 10.6 Carrying 11.6 Catching 6.6
Kicking 11.2 Punting 12.8 Footwork 10,4 Passing 8.6 Teamwork 24.3 Intelligence 27.0
Now it possible.
And team will much more stronger.

Last edited on 2012-05-05 17:47:45 by dark_wing

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