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oakbark
posted: 2018-03-14 20:01:16 (ID: 100125707) Report Abuse
ivo17 wrote:
Good bye iron man


The city of Cleveland should build a statue of him.


One of my favourite players of the last decade. Big loss for the Browns. Certainly no replacement worth drafting at current positions.
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TheTorturer
posted: 2018-03-14 20:09:32 (ID: 100125708) Report Abuse
oakbark wrote:
TheTorturer wrote:
What do you guy's think, was releasing Jordy Nelson a good move from the packers?

I mean Jordy did not have the best stats last season, but i think that was caused due to the injury of Rodgers.

The new TE Graham is a good player no doubt, and they needed a TE, but Jordy and Arod was a good combination in the offense over several seasons.


33 years old and costing a lot of money. WR tens to be a position you can hit gold on later in the draft. With a top QB you tend to be able to find guys that can make plays and Rodgers has shown hes good enough to make WR look better than they are.

Not sure Graham is the answer though. He is a long way from the player he was in his prime. Will offer an End Zone threat however.


The 33 years definitely are an argument...
In terms of the money Nelson stated that he would accept a cut in the payment and wanted to end his carrer in Green Bay... ok NFL is business and no kindergarden...

I guess Davante Adams has to show next season if he can deliver.
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MonsterT95
posted: 2018-03-15 19:05:54 (ID: 100125740) Report Abuse
Big turnovers for the Dolphins. It will be interesting to see where Suh lands.
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Mücke
posted: 2018-03-16 17:31:28 (ID: 100125791)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
TheTorturer wrote:
What do you guy's think, was releasing Jordy Nelson a good move from the packers?


time will tell, but at least it wasn't a smart one.

some sources report that GB offered him nothing more than the NFLs minimum for 10+ yr veterans, ~1m/yr. Rly!? They offered him that!?

If that story is true ..., what does it tell us about the new GM and the way GB parts with proven veterans nowadays? I can imagine that Gutekunst wanted that cut more than he wanted a restructure of Nelsons contract, just to set the tone by example, to make clear that really nobodys job is safe with him as GM.

Also i can imagine, if something romantic like "work ethics" still exists, pretty soon (2019) Raiders will welcome a new QB that matches perfectly to #87 ^^




Edit: can we restructure RZA veterans contracts to the half of the expense too

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MonsterT95
posted: 2018-03-17 17:55:18 (ID: 100125849) Report Abuse
(draft) TRADE ALERT ! TRADE ALERT !
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Luko1717
posted: 2018-03-17 18:57:48 (ID: 100125859) Report Abuse
Jets doing the correct thing IMO, one of Baker/Rosen/Darnold will be in New York next season, maybe even two of them. If Josh Allen goes top 5 I'll be extremely disappointed
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oakbark
posted: 2018-03-18 18:14:05 (ID: 100125908) Report Abuse
Luko1717 wrote:
Jets doing the correct thing IMO, one of Baker/Rosen/Darnold will be in New York next season, maybe even two of them. If Josh Allen goes top 5 I'll be extremely disappointed


It shakes and changes the draft now. Jets to take QB at 3 almost certainly. Now other teams need to look to see if could move up. Browns more Likely to move for their QB at 1 as by pick 4 they will likely be looking at 2 gone already. Evem if the Giants arnt gonna take one you will want move ahead of picks 3-5 currently quick are all strong contenders for QB.
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Mücke
posted: 2018-03-26 10:49:07 (ID: 100126144) Report Abuse
Most likely that the Browns wont miss to pick that one of a kind Barry Sanders 2.0 Version. First pick of 2018th Draft pretty sure will be RB Saquon Barkley.

Browns still can pick one of the top three QBs at #4.

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Buddy Ryan
posted: 2018-03-26 14:05:37 (ID: 100126152)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
Mücke wrote:
Most likely that the Browns wont miss to pick that one of a kind Barry Sanders 2.0 Version. First pick of 2018th Draft pretty sure will be RB Saquon Barkley.

Browns still can pick one of the top three QBs at #4.



guess they could still do that, but their previous GM was basically fired for not finding a QB in the draft, and the #1 pick this year might be their best chance in a while to get their guy. I dont think an organization can just like 4-5 prospects all the same, no matter their individual makeup, traits, style - and if so, they'd have no vision for their offensive philosophy at all, but I highly doubt that with dorsey.

seems like more and more teams are realizing that you dont just wait for a QB of the top tier to fall to your pick, but rather identify the right guy for their situation and do everything to get him. was not on bord with this strategy myself a few years back, because it might overvalue the QB position - even though everyone keeps saying thats not possible - but the eagles and rams have been successfull with that, the texans, bears, chiefs try the same...

and the jets tradeup changed everything: with the giants staying put #2, they might just as well draft Elis successor - and with QBs possibly going 1-3, the #4 pick the Browns hold becomes basically a #2 for them and they can pick up Barkley anyway.

the only team that could steal Saquon is the giants, but they had offers to move back and decided to stay at #2 - would they do that for a RB, considering the big haul of draft capital they could get with a tradeback? so its either a QB or the outside chance they have fallen in love with Chubbs I guess.

but the jets move is weird to me: what if QBs go #1 and #2, are they just fine with the 3rd choice anyway and figure things out later? so they are either quite sure their guy will be there or they are gambling the 2 2nd rounders they gave the colts on a 33% chance their guy might fall to them anyway. or they have no plan at all and just grab a QB

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oakbark
posted: 2018-03-26 15:19:59 (ID: 100126155) Report Abuse
Buddy Ryan wrote:
Mücke wrote:
Most likely that the Browns wont miss to pick that one of a kind Barry Sanders 2.0 Version. First pick of 2018th Draft pretty sure will be RB Saquon Barkley.

Browns still can pick one of the top three QBs at #4.



guess they could still do that, but their previous GM was basically fired for not finding a QB in the draft, and the #1 pick this year might be their best chance in a while to get their guy. I dont think an organization can just like 4-5 prospects all the same, no matter their individual makeup, traits, style - and if so, they'd have no vision for their offensive philosophy at all, but I highly doubt that with dorsey.

seems like more and more teams are realizing that you dont just wait for a QB of the top tier to fall to your pick, but rather identify the right guy for their situation and do everything to get him. was not on board with this strategy myself a few years back, because it might overvalue the QB position - even though everyone keeps saying thats not possible - but the eagles and rams have been successfull with that, the texans, bears, chiefs try the same...

and the jets tradeup changed everything: with the giants staying put #2, they might just as well draft Elis successor - and with QBs possibly going 1-3, the #4 pick the Browns hold becomes basically a #2 for them and they can pick up Barkley anyway.

the only team that could steal Saquon is the giants, but they had offers to move back and decided to stay at #2 - would they do that for a RB, considering the big haul of draft capital they could get with a tradeback? so its either a QB or the outside chance they have fallen in love with Chubbs I guess.

but the jets move is weird to me: what if QBs go #1 and #2, are they just fine with the 3rd choice anyway and figure things out later? so they are either quite sure their guy will be there or they are gambling the 2 2nd rounders they gave the colts on a 33% chance their guy might fall to them anyway. or they have no plan at all and just grab a QB [/quote

I too think the Browns go QB at one specifically SD. as good as Barclay is, RB's rarely last that long and lose their skills rapidly due to wear and tear (compared to other positions) and have a high chance of serious injuries. That's why I think that such a high pick over a franchise QB would be such a risk.

Jets i think want Rosen but would settle if needed for Mayfield. The Giants, everything is in play but if they stay i can see Barclay or Chubb going to them. Chubb feels a very real need with JPP leaving. Pass rushers also tend to have some longevity about them too and in this passing league their importance is ever more increasing.
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