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canonico
posted: 2012-10-06 07:01:13 (ID: 60273) Report Abuse
I know I know this idea sounds crazy. But still, I thought, how cool would it be if we could have a American Football World Cup, RZA style of course. Well I think it would be very cool, if it is infact even possible. Keep in mind all these ideas are just skeletons, meaning they are just a rough drawing in my head of what it could be the RZA World Cup, it might very well be that this project is not feasible for Pete and Preachie to invest time in, and if that is the case I totaly understand, but still I like to share the suggestion with you all.

Side note - Naturaly this would be a long term project, and possibly in the back burner do to his possible complexity.

My View on How Would It Work

Country Eligibility
Well countrys to be eligble to participate would need to have at least three teams registred in RZA. Less than that would make that country ilegible to have a team in the RZA world Cup, simply because he would be in a huge disavantage in terms of recruiting the players to the National Team. But if this sounds unfair, it could be naturaly changed.

Managers (Coaches)
1. I think each National team should have 2 managers (in this case coaches), one for the offense and the other for the defense, this two coaches would have access to the National team Playbook, and each would setup their area, offense/defense.

2. How to s e l e c t this coaches to train the National team, I think they could be selected by the Global rankings of their own team, meaning, the Manager of the two top ranked teams from each country would have the previledge of leading the National team for 1 season, after that they would become ineligble for the next 3 seasons of World Cup to give chances to others to also take part in the experience. But it could also be done through voting, aldo I don’t think it would be necessary.

Side Note - In the eventuality that some managers not wanting the job for some reason whatsover, they could refuse it, and then the next managers of the teams of said country better placed in the Global rankings would be called to replace them effective immediately.
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Recruiting Players
Now, how could each Manager (Offensive and Defensive), see the players that he as available, and be able to call them to represent the Country.

1. How to find them.
We would need to have a search feature for players by Nationality, this feature would only be available to the National teams managers while they are on the job, this would allow an extense list to where each Manager could recruit the players they think would help represent their country the best. They would not in anytime be able to see the skills of those players, so they would have to base their recruitment and management solely on Stats,Rating & Experience.

2. How to Call Them and how does the Manager of the team knows if a player of his is beeing called to represent the country.
Placing a icon in each player home page, with a link where the National team Managers only, could simply click on that icon and that player would be recruited and show up on the National team roster. (easier said than done I know) As for the manager of the team that, that player plays in, he would get a pinboard message or a PM, informing him that Player Y was called to represent the National team of XXXXXX.

3. Would the manager have the ability to not allow a player to go to the National team?
Manager could refuse conceeding his player to the National team, he would have a 24 hours period to click on a icon just like the Managers of the national team would have to call him to the National team, his own manager could use that icon to inform said player is ineligeble to represent his country.

Or

Creating a checkbox in the player homepage that wouls say Unavailable-[X], if teh check box was checked that means teh manager does not allow for that player to represent the National Country. Simpler than the first option I think.
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World Cup games Schedule
I’d say during the regular season, we have plenty of days that don’t have any games, so those could very well be used to play the World Cup, while also playing the regular season games for leagues and Supercup games in the original schedule. Teams could still play friendly games like we do now, even when there are National team games.
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Players Injurys while representing their Country
Well I think the chance of it occuring should naturaly be there, afterall it’s a game like others, infact it would envolve even more pride since we would have our players representing the National Country. So I say naturaly, yes there would be the possibility of injury happening.
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Competition Plan
Because there are so many countrys that could participate, I think a 1st round would be a head to head elimination game, winners advance, loser goes home early.
Next, maybe a group stage with 5 teams in each group, each play each other one time, that means two home games two away games, also each team as one day off. Top two teams move forward. Team that placed #1 would play team that placed #2 of the other group and so on for all other groups. Then it would be again straight elimination games, winners moves on, loser goes home, until the final game. (naturaly this might very well not be how it could work, it’s a example)

Side note - Because there is a possibility of the number of teams beeing unheaven and hence not allowing pairing, in case that happened, the National team with the most teams represented would be allowed one more team, let’s say it was Portugal, it would be called Portugal B team. They would naturaly have a diferent set of managers that the original Portugal team would have, and could only pick players after them. Sort of a gap filler, but a dangerous one, with loads of talent possibilities.

Or the National team to have two teams representing their country could be randomly selected.
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That’s all I have right now.
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holmeboy
posted: 2012-10-06 08:40:27 (ID: 60282) Report Abuse
Pretty sure something like this was suggested before but don't know what happened... Would love to see it tho!

As far as I'm aware I'm the only Irish manager (few from the North though!). But I wouldn't mind that my team would get annihilated if I was allowed to take part. Maybe for the smaller countries have playoffs or something?
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Buffalo
posted: 2012-10-06 09:10:28 (ID: 60290) Report Abuse
Nationalteams were suggested several times.

I think, every country should have the possibility to have a national teams. Something like a preplayoffs for small countries could be a solution.

Pete said, that he wouldn't allow to change the nationality for draftees any more. This would be a clear disadvantage.

Another con was, that only few managers are involved.
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hosh13
posted: 2012-10-06 09:27:18 (ID: 60292) Report Abuse
To make the obvious comparison to TOG, I think it's a waste of time.

If the devs analyzed the managers in all the time zones, and did a split of 4 or 8 based on that, it'd be good.

But nation vs nation is just plagued with inequity.
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hosh13
posted: 2012-10-06 09:37:26 (ID: 60293) Report Abuse
This must have been suggested b4 but I'll say it here.

How about an inter-league comp?

Ideally the Div I SB winners be the managers and teams in that league can put, say, 3 of their players up for selection. Then the devs could make a csv available to those managers.

Not sure there'd be enough interest - I wonder.

I feel a little pride already in Thunder!
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posted: 2012-10-06 10:16:39 (ID: 60297) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
Another con was, that only few managers are involved.


That is the main disadvantage
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canonico
posted: 2012-10-06 16:29:12 (ID: 60346) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
Another con was, that only few managers are involved.


That is the main disadvantage


Not necessarily,, sure some managers wouldn't be directly involved in managing, but still having 2 managers per team taking care of the offense and defense each season in so many countrys, I think that gets alot of managers involved.

And not only that, but even if a manager is not involved directly, the fact that a player of his is on the team, or can be on the team, makes him involved, totaly not see that as a disadvantage.

Edit - Also, when the World Cup games would be played, other managers could still play friendly games among their teams. So it's not like there would be nothing to do, if anything, this will get managers more involved, and not the other way around.

Last edited on 2012-10-06 16:39:49 by canonico

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canonico
posted: 2012-10-06 16:43:28 (ID: 60349) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
Pete said, that he wouldn't allow to change the nationality for draftees any more. This would be a clear disadvantage.


And why is that a disavantage, i'm preety sure Pete as a random generator of nationality going, so it's fair to everyone. No disadvantge here, actualy the disadvantage could be if Pete allowed for managers to change their Draftees Nationality. (Which to be completely honest, I don't even think there should be such option in the first place, but what I think is beside the point).
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Buffalo
posted: 2012-10-06 17:31:24 (ID: 60352) Report Abuse
canonico wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
Pete said, that he wouldn't allow to change the nationality for draftees any more. This would be a clear disadvantage.


And why is that a disavantage, i'm preety sure Pete as a random generator of nationality going, so it's fair to everyone. No disadvantge here, actualy the disadvantage could be if Pete allowed for managers to change their Draftees Nationality. (Which to be completely honest, I don't even think there should be such option in the first place, but what I think is beside the point).


Its a disadvantage, because is very unlikely that small countries get one star per season. If you can change the nationality, than you can get a minimum of 3 stars of your nationality.
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canonico
posted: 2012-10-06 17:47:56 (ID: 60353) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
canonico wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
Pete said, that he wouldn't allow to change the nationality for draftees any more. This would be a clear disadvantage.


And why is that a disavantage, i'm preety sure Pete as a random generator of nationality going, so it's fair to everyone. No disadvantge here, actualy the disadvantage could be if Pete allowed for managers to change their Draftees Nationality. (Which to be completely honest, I don't even think there should be such option in the first place, but what I think is beside the point).


Its a disadvantage, because is very unlikely that small countries get one star per season. If you can change the nationality, than you can get a minimum of 3 stars of your nationality.


While it can be view as a disavantage , I think it's just a mirror of reality. Small countrys have a less recruitment possibilitys. That is just how it is in the real world to Buffalo. And besides, I doubt there would be complains about that, in this thread we have Holmeboy saying he would prefer the possibility not to have this only for countrys with 3+ teams in RZA, even if he thinks he is the only one from his own country currently playing RZA. Managers would have to work with what they got, simple as that, and from season to season more players from their nationality will become available.

I don't see this as a deal breaker or even as a issue at all. It would reflect the RZA reality actually.
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