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hosh13
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posted: 2012-10-15 01:05:18 (ID: 61669) Report Abuse |
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If a new team was comprised of all rookie, middle of the range draft players, how long b4 they were competitive with the best teams?
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Warlord99
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posted: 2012-10-17 11:43:31 (ID: 62059) Report Abuse |
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depends, if you have them playing where they are best and have the right playbook, you could be competitive right away though id anticipate at least an 8-8 record, no worse than 6-10, probably second in the division, if they were out of place, and the playbook was less than stellar, id anticipate 3-13 maybe 5-11
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-10-17 12:03:46 (ID: 62062) Report Abuse |
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I'm just wondering what a top managers roster looks like (might need to do some serious scouting one of these days
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Are all their players draft like plus developed? Would they have any players on the field that aren't at least as good as a new rookie? If not, even a new team full of new draftees would need a few seasons to get close. Just to get the specific skills into the 40ish range. |
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| posted: 2012-10-17 15:03:46 (ID: 62086) Report Abuse | |
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I think with this upcoming draft, many of the draft picks will not be instant starters on most of the top teams. They may eventually, but probably not from day one. So already younger teams will close the gap a little bit with each draft. I still think it will probably take 3-4 years before many of them are competitive.
Also, as top teams start dealing with salary issues, their overall strength wouldn't grow as fast. Additionally, I'm sure older teams start dumping some of their players which might find their way to younger teams. Steve SD Blitz |
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Sisko
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posted: 2012-10-17 15:45:24 (ID: 62090) Report Abuse |
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Solana_Steve wrote:
I still think it will probably take 3-4 years before many of them are competitive. I guess you mean 3-4 seasons, which means about a year in real time, which means not that much patience is needed to have a shot for glory... Especially since this game is complex enough to keep you easily busy for a year - from my own experience. |
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| posted: 2012-10-17 15:50:38 (ID: 62091) Report Abuse | |
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Well...if you look at that other game...it took a lot longer...but RZA has a draft, so I think newer teams can get better faster here.
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CapitalMistake
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posted: 2012-10-17 22:25:45 (ID: 62183) Report Abuse |
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I know exactly what you're getting at Josh, and I was wondering the same thing.
Another question: Do you wait until an academy player is 20 before promoting him? Should you concentrate on one or two players with the bonus training points? How long does it take to develop an academy player in to a starter? And finally! If an 18 year old in the academy could make a difference, is there any penalty promoting him early other than not being able to give him the bonus points? For example, do youth players develop quicker in the academy than in the first team? I ask these questions to try and figure out how long it will take to build a competitive roster internally rather than buying on the TM. |
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bwadders76
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posted: 2012-10-18 00:31:43 (ID: 62193) Report Abuse |
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CapitalMistake wrote:
I know exactly what you're getting at Josh, and I was wondering the same thing. Another question: 1, Do you wait until an academy player is 20 before promoting him? 2, Should you concentrate on one or two players with the bonus training points? 3, How long does it take to develop an academy player in to a starter? And finally! 4 If an 18 year old in the academy could make a difference, is there any penalty promoting him early other than not being able to give him the bonus points? For example, do youth players develop quicker in the academy than in the first team? I ask these questions to try and figure out how long it will take to build a competitive roster internally rather than buying on the TM. in answer to those questions (ive numbered your questions for ease of reference) 1, yes I usually wait until his 20 2, each to their own some like 1 draft quality player out of the YA others like 2-4 rounded players not as good but more of them. 3, that depends on the quality as you pull them. I have two potential superstars coming through. 18 year old 42 speed no cap yet. I've just pulled a 17 year old STR and SPd only 22 but INT and TW are in the late 40's 4, the only penalty from that I see is that he doesnt benefit from training points in the YA anymore. So if hes good enough hes old enough In answer to hosh's question I didnt move my players around (a mistake I know that now) first season 12-4 this season 15-1 and in the bowl. I will find it harder next season in 1.1 but remember only 1 team can be #1 so even those here from the start with an amazing playbook, good transfers and luck havent made it to #1 yet. I would say 3-4 season and you can be competitive with the best. One of the coc semi finallists is in their thrid season and only his first in 1.1 4 |
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| posted: 2012-10-18 04:48:15 (ID: 62197) Report Abuse | |
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2, each to their own some like 1 draft quality player out of the YA others like 2-4 rounded players not as good but more of them.
I do think that trying to build six players a season is a mistake though. You just don't have enough YA points to go around. Steve SD Blitz |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-10-18 05:41:25 (ID: 62203) Report Abuse |
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Yeah, right now, rightly or wrongly, my philosophy is to concentrate on 1 20yo per season. And then either sell the other 20yo or add them to my roster where appropriate.
The situation is very dynamic. Once you have ~ 20 youths in the YA, you need to come up with ways to make space for exceptional pulls or others you pick up from the TM. If you don't sell them fast enough then you either need to burn a promotion or let a youth go directly to the senior squad which you basically don't want. You need to leave enough spots open for this, but what do you do when there's a ton of great talented youth on the TM and you start winning a lot of them? I am still working this out! Last edited on 2012-10-18 16:45:51 by hosh13 |
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