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TombKing
posted: 2012-10-18 16:46:29 (ID: 62286) Report Abuse
ombi wrote:
First people were angry that veteran coaches were spending a lot money on the transfer market, taking all the top players, but spending their money in the process. Now someone's upset that teams are saving their money, but building up their players slowly. Sounds like every strategy in this game is evil and must be stopped. I see no point in this.


Pass me those potato chips, will you?
I also need some explanation here.

Last edited on 2012-10-18 16:46:39 by TombKing

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Grzymisław
posted: 2012-10-18 17:54:01 (ID: 62301) Report Abuse
So then everyone should spend very much directly and build one-skill players? I don't understand it.

And not everyone stupid could win using this strategy, because only someone very clever and patient might do it this way. I don't remember anyone except Pete who bought none superstar on the market.
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posted: 2012-10-18 17:56:32 (ID: 62303) Report Abuse
That is a bit black white...

There are two extremes

1.) go for the transfer market, buy faster success, but "ruin" your account

2.) go for slow building, needs longer, but might lead to more relaxed banking ...

everyone of these strategies has advantages...and disadvantages...and there are paths in the middle...

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ombi
posted: 2012-10-18 21:21:21 (ID: 62345) Report Abuse
TombKing wrote:
ombi wrote:
First people were angry that veteran coaches were spending a lot money on the transfer market, taking all the top players, but spending their money in the process. Now someone's upset that teams are saving their money, but building up their players slowly. Sounds like every strategy in this game is evil and must be stopped. I see no point in this.


Pass me those potato chips, will you?
I also need some explanation here.


Pete's summary above pretty much descibes the 2 strategies I was talking about. I just think that everyone is going overboard on some of these topics.

I've also heard people on the forums that want to kill the TM completely, then someone else who thinks the YA should be taken away. Both ideas are a little extreme IMO. We can make some small changes to improve them though.

And in this thread about strategies. I see no reason to go after someone who employs these team building strategies, as long as it's in the spirit of the game. Win now or win later, or somewhere in between, it's all ok with me.

Maybe Hosh could tell us what he thinks everyone should do in terms of team building?

The weather has been annoying over here lately, so excuse me if I come across as being grumpy.

Last edited on 2012-10-18 21:23:45 by ombi

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panoramix
posted: 2012-10-19 00:03:21 (ID: 62366) Report Abuse
pete wrote:2.) go for slow building, needs longer, but might lead to more relaxed banking


Hmmm...it needs not so long time...
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bwadders76
posted: 2012-10-19 03:15:21 (ID: 62377) Report Abuse
hosh13 wrote:
Consider manager A. He decides he will spend money to get enough decent players in place across his entire team and then make sure the physicals are all acceptable, along with INT and TW for the appropriate positions.

He then decides he'll round out the players for a few seasons. He has no further need for TM activity so he saves a ton of money and also keeps players salaries low.

Then at some point in time he decides his players are "rounded" enough and he focuses training on all the primaries.

A few seasons later he is an unstoppable force. His player salaries are thru the roof but he has huge coffers to handle this for 2 or 3 seasons or so.

Should this be an acceptable tactic or should there be a salary cap?



How does a salary cap change anything? Player A has kept his salaries low its only when he stops breaking even and eating into his bank balance that the cap would be of any use. After the coffers have run dry players need to be sold anyway.
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bwadders76
posted: 2012-10-19 03:28:49 (ID: 62378) Report Abuse
Lamumia wrote:
Every strategy that enables someone to beat Hosh should be stopped


My opponents have come up with some revolutionary new tactic which I think should be banned. They are trying to score more points than me in a game. Those that have achieved this have won the game. These kind of cheat tactics are not acceptable. I've reported it as a bug but Pete can't seem to find it either so I think he may be in on the cheating. Even people in RL are in on it as well, my boss asked me if I would work over the other day when I had a game planned so I couldn't spend as much time on my counter measures to prevent this outrageous cheating.

Hosh no offence but you change your mind more often than MTS changes his dentures. Just over a week ago you was posting suggestions saying that it takes too long to reach the top of the pile then only a day or two ago you are advocating one league more divisions thus potentially lengthening the process from bottom division to winning the 1.1 bowl and going for that all important #1 slot. I don't mean to ridicule but I am waiting for the "register and instantly get the best team ever suggestion complete with everything done for you"

I know you're of the instant generation but the only time I have seen achievment come before hard work is in the dictionary.


PS

For those of you wondering I haven't sampled the shandy in the Digby this evening as I had a pool match away tonight and it was my turn to drive Hence why at 4.30am I am wide awake 3-4 hours sleep seems to be plenty for me lately

Last edited on 2012-10-19 03:34:52 by bwadders76

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hosh13
posted: 2012-10-19 04:45:22 (ID: 62388) Report Abuse
ombi wrote:
Maybe Hosh could tell us what he thinks everyone should do in terms of team building?


That's up to them to work out.

There is doing what's best within the standing rules, but this is a discussion about what the rules should be.

It seems that, although this is a management sim involving money, there might be too much emphasis on the money side rather than the actual playing of the sport. I guess that's a matter of preference.

Simply, I don't care how good you are tactically within the sport, if another manager has a vastly superior roster due to massive payroll, then he wins.

I guess in a game like this you end up with 2 major things -

1/how good you are at assembling a team
2/how good you are at utilizing it

I think there's a danger that 1/ might become a little too predominant.

This is probably not much of a factor yet, but let's see how people react when they realise they're going up against managers with a player salary that could be as much as double their's!

Last edited on 2012-10-19 04:47:15 by hosh13

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posted: 2012-10-19 05:49:31 (ID: 62391) Report Abuse
Grzymisław wrote:
So then everyone should spend very much directly and build one-skill players? I don't understand it.

And not everyone stupid could win using this strategy, because only someone very clever and patient might do it this way. I don't remember anyone except Pete who bought none superstar on the market.

me?
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Grzymisław
posted: 2012-10-19 10:56:41 (ID: 62415) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
Grzymisław wrote:
So then everyone should spend very much directly and build one-skill players? I don't understand it.

And not everyone stupid could win using this strategy, because only someone very clever and patient might do it this way. I don't remember anyone except Pete who bought none superstar on the market.

me?

You're right. And you're one of most active people from testing platform. It means this money would be needed in the future.
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