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| posted: 2012-10-19 12:03:25 (ID: 62434) Report Abuse | |
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Grzymisław wrote:
jack6 wrote:
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So then everyone should spend very much directly and build one-skill players? I don't understand it. And not everyone stupid could win using this strategy, because only someone very clever and patient might do it this way. I don't remember anyone except Pete who bought none superstar on the market.  me?You're right. And you're one of most active people from testing platform. It means this money would be needed in the future. Don't misinterpret my actions. The only reason why I did not do a big splash on the TM is, I refuse to pay a shitload of my money for a single player. That has nothing to do with the test system. Yes, I know how the wages will increase, but there are some teams here who did good by buying and selling and they still have almost the same amount of cash I have. |
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posted: 2012-10-19 12:21:49 (ID: 62439) Report Abuse |
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jack6 wrote:
Grzymisław wrote:
jack6 wrote:
Grzymisław wrote:
So then everyone should spend very much directly and build one-skill players? I don't understand it. And not everyone stupid could win using this strategy, because only someone very clever and patient might do it this way. I don't remember anyone except Pete who bought none superstar on the market. me?You're right. And you're one of most active people from testing platform. It means this money would be needed in the future. Don't misinterpret my actions. The only reason why I did not do a big splash on the TM is, I refuse to pay a shitload of my money for a single player. That has nothing to do with the test system. Yes, I know how the wages will increase, but there are some teams here who did good by buying and selling and they still have almost the same amount of cash I have. Maybe they just sell good players for superstar prices like Turtle. But I noticed it already that when salaries will increase, then it would be needed to have a lot of money to buy cheaper(in terms of salary) replacement, because nobody will buy old guy with >100k salary for a good price. |
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posted: 2012-10-19 14:12:47 (ID: 62463) Report Abuse |
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Anyway, I think an overall salary cap (that covers everything, not just players) could be introduced. Or perhaps it could only apply to players?
Anyway, I would suggest that this cap be ~ the sum of the max money that a division 1 team could make in 1 season, including playoff revenue. (I would prefer that there was no CofC in this. I would prefer there was no CofC at all!  ). |
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posted: 2012-10-19 18:45:16 (ID: 62508) Report Abuse |
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Simply, I don't care how good you are tactically within the sport, if another manager has a vastly superior roster due to massive payroll, then he wins. This is probably not much of a factor yet, but let's see how people react when they realise they're going up against managers with a player salary that could be as much as double their's!  Part 1, Find me a team sport where there isn't a giant of the game because of the massive payroll they can afford to pay their players? Part 2, My player payroll $181k pw Dapper Dandies payroll $4,389k pw. Our recent friendly cup game Dapper Dandies 6 Shard End Sharks 28 Lets turn this around, you have been here a season or two now so some of your players are getting 3-4 stars for experience. A new player logs on for the very first time and over the next week pulls two players from his YA. A 1/2 a star LB and a 1/2 a star QB. You have spent time here assembling your squad this guy hasn't even set a playbook but in the interests of making it easier for new teams these two players with very little skills and next to no experience continually smoke you because that's fair right? I thought you would love that idea because you seem like a guy who wants to play fairly. Or was that you want to get to the top within a season and it doesn't matter that there are people here who have been playing the game for over a year and have put a lot of effort into developing their squads. We all know you want the CoC removing to the recycle bin but this is the best two teams from each league facing off so I'm all for that otherwise how can you judge yourself to be #1 of all leagues? Tonight you will see the semi finals of the CoC one of those teams Mov Ravens were playing in 2.2 last season AND they didn't even win their bowl last season so yes it is possible to go from noone to number 1 in just a few seasons. Last edited on 2012-10-19 18:45:47 by bwadders76 |
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posted: 2012-10-19 22:44:44 (ID: 62557) Report Abuse |
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i have a bankroll which will keep me happy for a long time, i havent hit the TM and only built my team on YA yes it might be slower than instant success but it fits my way playing better than 150mil + on players i dont think are worth it.
if someone uses the tm for success then thats their tactic much the same as everyone builds and decides which stats are more important per position. |
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posted: 2012-10-19 23:16:14 (ID: 62565) Report Abuse |
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Whether one uses the TM or not, I think there is an obvious tactic here.
You get the pieces (players) in place, round them out and then concentrate all of them at the same time on position specific skills in a way that will make them peak together. It is probably possible that a team might get all such skills to every players talent limit and then just train the extras until their coffers run dry. If you are not doing this at the same time as another such team, what are your chances? Is this a desirable situation for the game? |
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posted: 2012-10-19 23:19:27 (ID: 62567) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
Whether one uses the TM or not, I think there is an obvious tactic here. You get the pieces (players) in place, round them out and then concentrate all of them at the same time on position specific skills in a way that will make them peak together. It is probably possible that a team might get all such skills to every players talent limit and then just train the extras until their coffers run dry. If you are not doing this at the same time as another such team, what are your chances? Is this a desirable situation for the game? Forgive me but isnt that how EVERY sports team is built to win a championship? Of course there is a longer term plan in place to replace those who go off the boil earlier but you appear to be moaning about the aim of the game to win titles. |
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posted: 2012-10-19 23:27:19 (ID: 62569) Report Abuse |
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First of all, it's not the "moaning" forum, it's the "Discussion" forum and afaic that's what I and a few others are doing.
If you want to make real life references then you are shooting yourself in the foot since I am suggesting a salary cap might be preferable. People seem selectively forgetful about this. They also have some funny notions about salary caps, like there being different ones for different teams which is pretty humourous.  Last edited on 2012-10-19 23:45:52 by hosh13 |
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posted: 2012-10-19 23:36:13 (ID: 62570) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
First of all, it's not the "moaning" forum, it's the "Discussion" forum and afaic that's what I and a few others are doing. If you want to make real life refences then you are shooting yourself in the foot since I am suggesting a salary cap might be preferable. People seem selectively forgetful about this. They also have some funny notions about salary caps, like there being different ones for different teams which is pretty humourous. How can aiming to peak for something specific be shooting myself in the foot. Every sportsman aims to peak at a specific time, teams usually aim to peak for major tournaments like world cups etc. Quote some numbers and reasoning for that figure on a salary cap. My arguement against it is that a team isnt sustainable indefinately under the current system as income has a ceiling even if someone managed to win all the titles every year they could not sustain the maximum team possible. You may argue that selling players would do this but buying a player for $200m + is not feasible without strengthening other sides which in turn closes the gap between #1 and player x. If that is your arguement then you need to be pushing for TM reforms and not a salary cap as thats limited. You get those numbers and if High Fives isn't against the idea let him quote his income from everything except transfers (this would be more accurate if he wins all 3 finals) and hey presto theres your salary cap without even implementing one. |
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posted: 2012-10-19 23:51:03 (ID: 62573) Report Abuse |
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bwadders76 wrote:
How can aiming to peak for something specific be shooting myself in the foot. Every sportsman aims to peak at a specific time, teams usually aim to peak for major tournaments like world cups etc. On the one hand you are quoting real life yet having an allergy to a salary cap! |
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