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bwadders76
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posted: 2012-11-15 01:17:08 (ID: 68539) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
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and maybe everybody is a bit more careful about the blitzing option. Remember: if you take off the safety by sending him out for blitzing the QB leads to a weak defensive backfield too...maybe everybody sets up their defense pass first? Sorry Pete but I think this needs to be said. Ive done a bit of analysis on some 1.1 games and 43% of all TDs are from 41 yards or more BUT nearly 50% of these are your own doing. You will be surprised how many teams defend the Shotgun formation with the 5-3-3 sorry but you're asking for trouble there. A pass completion and its a TD, break the line in a rushing play and there is nothing behind it. Im not the new engines biggest fan nor am I a tactical genius but lets get our playbook sorted first before pointing fingers. |
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dark_wing
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posted: 2012-11-15 04:40:45 (ID: 68547) Report Abuse |
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bwadders76 wrote:
pete wrote:
Tarjan wrote:
and maybe everybody is a bit more careful about the blitzing option. Remember: if you take off the safety by sending him out for blitzing the QB leads to a weak defensive backfield too...maybe everybody sets up their defense pass first? Sorry Pete but I think this needs to be said. Ive done a bit of analysis on some 1.1 games and 43% of all TDs are from 41 yards or more BUT nearly 50% of these are your own doing. You will be surprised how many teams defend the Shotgun formation with the 5-3-3 sorry but you're asking for trouble there. A pass completion and its a TD, break the line in a rushing play and there is nothing behind it. Im not the new engines biggest fan nor am I a tactical genius but lets get our playbook sorted first before pointing fingers. Look at this game |
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| posted: 2012-11-15 07:44:47 (ID: 68551) Report Abuse | |
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bwadders76 wrote:
pete wrote:
Tarjan wrote:
and maybe everybody is a bit more careful about the blitzing option. Remember: if you take off the safety by sending him out for blitzing the QB leads to a weak defensive backfield too...maybe everybody sets up their defense pass first? Sorry Pete but I think this needs to be said. Ive done a bit of analysis on some 1.1 games and 43% of all TDs are from 41 yards or more BUT nearly 50% of these are your own doing. You will be surprised how many teams defend the Shotgun formation with the 5-3-3 sorry but you're asking for trouble there. A pass completion and its a TD, break the line in a rushing play and there is nothing behind it. Im not the new engines biggest fan nor am I a tactical genius but lets get our playbook sorted first before pointing fingers. I know. And I did some check yesterday by myself, again. the risk to get beaten deep is of course much higher if you send your last tackle instance out for blitzing. And of course the playbook is the #1 key, no question |
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bwadders76
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posted: 2012-11-15 11:23:41 (ID: 68572) Report Abuse |
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dark_wing wrote:
bwadders76 wrote:
pete wrote:
Tarjan wrote:
and maybe everybody is a bit more careful about the blitzing option. Remember: if you take off the safety by sending him out for blitzing the QB leads to a weak defensive backfield too...maybe everybody sets up their defense pass first? Sorry Pete but I think this needs to be said. Ive done a bit of analysis on some 1.1 games and 43% of all TDs are from 41 yards or more BUT nearly 50% of these are your own doing. You will be surprised how many teams defend the Shotgun formation with the 5-3-3 sorry but you're asking for trouble there. A pass completion and its a TD, break the line in a rushing play and there is nothing behind it. Im not the new engines biggest fan nor am I a tactical genius but lets get our playbook sorted first before pointing fingers. Look at this game I have checked this match and there are 13 TDs 12 passing and 1 rushing. Of the passing TDs three of these may have been prevented has the playbook been better ie SH4 v goaline D is one example. 1 TD the playbook is average (SG4 v 3-4-4). Of the other 8 I will have a look at these but the formations appear to be ok. Eight TDs does seem a lot though but hey players make plays sometimes. 
I may message you later for a bit more info on these TDs |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-11-15 11:27:14 (ID: 68573) Report Abuse |
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bwadders76 wrote:
I have checked this match and there are 13 TDs 12 passing and 1 rushing. Looks like 7 rush, 6 pass to me. |
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bwadders76
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posted: 2012-11-15 11:39:55 (ID: 68575) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
bwadders76 wrote:
I have checked this match and there are 13 TDs 12 passing and 1 rushing. Looks like 7 rush, 6 pass to me. Is it? I scanned it quickly and was more interested in the formations. I'm at work for the next 6 hours so I will check properly when I get home hence my comment about I may ask for more info later. |
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Nogard
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posted: 2012-11-15 11:54:04 (ID: 68578) Report Abuse |
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yes 5 long runs and 2 short one. 5 long pass and 1 short.
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bwadders76
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posted: 2012-11-15 11:56:30 (ID: 68581) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
Looks like 7 rush, 6 pass to me. you're right boy some long runs in there. Of the 6 passing TDs 1 was down to the playbook for certain. 4 the playbook was ok not great and 1 was definately not down to poor play calling. I will look at these five more later. |
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Majortinkle
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posted: 2012-11-15 12:14:07 (ID: 68583) Report Abuse |
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bwadders76 wrote:
hosh13 wrote:
Looks like 7 rush, 6 pass to me. you're right boy some long runs in there. Of the 6 passing TDs 1 was down to the playbook for certain. 4 the playbook was ok not great and 1 was definately not down to poor play calling. I will look at these five more later. Surely this game is just down to the fact that one team had DB's that could tackle the ball carrier and the other didn't - 10 missed tackles for the CBs alone on the losing side. tbh isn't it the DB missed tackles that are skewing a lot of these games in the new match engine rather than anything else. In the previous engine they didn't seem to miss as much. It's not that their tackling is too low, so it's something else. Presumably agility and intelligence as Pete flagged both up at certain points but it could be anything as nobody bar Pete knows. As the greater importance of these skills weren't revealed in time for this season most people don't have the right builds or players at DB so it doesn't look pretty. Change the builds (in what way we're not 100% sure) and we'll have a chance of some realistic scores and could see where the balance sits re run vs pass. |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-11-15 13:52:26 (ID: 68602) Report Abuse |
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It seems that if a given offence has a certain sort of RB/TE/WR that has high AG and/or STR and/or Carry and/or Speed, and that D secondary hasn't got the right mix to deal with it, then it gets chopped up.
Last edited on 2012-11-15 13:52:52 by hosh13 |
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