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posted: 2013-02-13 20:48:12 (ID: 82974) Report Abuse
sfniner08 wrote:
I think making a change like this is a very short term idea. I don't think it is a good long term idea at all.

The goal is that each 1.1 league will be full of competitive human controlled teams. There is a maximum of what a team can reach in terms of roster construction. There is a plateau, teams will catch up. The current set up will enable that to continue happening.

This proposed change serves ONLY to consolidate top teams now. I still think the issue of blowouts will exist within the RZA world regardless.

This is a lot of work for short term satisfaction. I feel this change is saying that we have reached the max growth we will get here so lets consolidate. Instead the message should be to stay as is because we have plenty of growth left.


nice one!
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posted: 2013-02-14 21:51:02 (ID: 83164) Report Abuse
In general, if you have a more pyramid like structure, then you tend to have teams matched up against similar level teams. If you have a flatter structure, then you will get more disparity between teams. I’m not sure that just creating a super league would resolve this issue. The 5th best team in the Galaxy 1.1 (#1. Myself, #2 New Catalonia, #3 Hippos, #4 bupti, #5 Turtles) – perhaps the Turtles is still quite a bit better than the worst teams in the league.

I do think it you had only one league with a rather steep pyramid structure, it would force more parity. But I also think there is some advantages to have leagues with specific game times and rivalries and personalities.

The one thing I think might need to be addressed is the potential to possibly switch division. I could definitely see where a newer team got stuck in a division with a bunch of titans and saw no chance of being competitive or playoff bound for the foreseeable future. I would not be surprise to see a fair number of teams in this situation give up.

I’m wondering, if teams could s e l e c t a setting prior to the end of the season and when the promotion/demotion happens, those teams would be scrambled in with the newly promoted teams for the open division spots. I don’t think you want teams swapping left and right, so maybe it would only be available to 3rd and 4th place teams from divisions with two playoff teams. This gets complicated though - - maybe having two wildcard teams is sufficient.


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JonnyP
posted: 2013-02-15 09:52:40 (ID: 83226) Report Abuse
I'm strongly in favour of a tighter tier structure, there's no fun to be gained bashing bots week in week out.

The time differences could easily be kept - the games are played at the chosen time of the Home team.

1 tier, more levels, more close competition.
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alexshans84
posted: 2013-02-15 09:55:06 (ID: 83228) Report Abuse
JonnyP wrote:
I'm strongly in favour of a tighter tier structure, there's no fun to be gained bashing bots week in week out.

The time differences could easily be kept - the games are played at the chosen time of the Home team.

1 tier, more levels, more close competition.


Completely agree
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bwadders76
posted: 2013-02-15 10:01:10 (ID: 83233) Report Abuse
alexshans84 wrote:
JonnyP wrote:
I'm strongly in favour of a tighter tier structure, there's no fun to be gained bashing bots week in week out.

The time differences could easily be kept - the games are played at the chosen time of the Home team.

1 tier, more levels, more close competition.


Completely agree


Only for the top 4 in the league who go up to the "super" league.

Considering that the financial restraints are going to soon prevent these sides from getting much better then there are going to be more sides of similar quality.
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Buffalo
posted: 2013-02-15 10:26:53 (ID: 83238) Report Abuse
Here my idea for the so called super league:

In the first superleague season all championship finalists of all 1.1 Leagues are promoted. The 2 teams of one League play again in the same Division. This mean in the superleague the 8 division are equivalent to the 8 regions. At the end of the season the two worst team of each Regiondivision are replaced with the bowl finalists of the same 1.1. League region and the 2 teams go back to their original league.
So after every season the half league will be replaced by new teams. The worst 16 teams go back to their original league. All 8 Superleague divisions play at their original time.
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alexshans84
posted: 2013-02-15 10:36:17 (ID: 83239) Report Abuse
It's a Fire region breakdown:

Fire 1.1 - no bot teams

Fire 2.1 - 8 bot teams
Fire 2.2 - 20 bot teams

Fire 2 - 28 bot teams (44 % of all teams)

Fire 3 - 108 bot teams (84 % of all teams)

Honestly if I joined the game now I would tire of lack of competition with human opponents and quit very soon because bot bashing is not what most people seek in online games.
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posted: 2013-02-15 10:38:53 (ID: 83240) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
Here my idea for the so called super league:

In the first superleague season all championship finalists of all 1.1 Leagues are promoted. The 2 teams of one League play again in the same Division. This mean in the superleague the 8 division are equivalent to the 8 regions. At the end of the season the two worst team of each Regiondivision are replaced with the bowl finalists of the same 1.1. League region and the 2 teams go back to their original league.
So after every season the half league will be replaced by new teams. The worst 16 teams go back to their original league. All 8 Superleague divisions play at their original time.


I like this idea Suggestions forum is waiting
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Buffalo
posted: 2013-02-15 10:41:30 (ID: 83241) Report Abuse
alexshans84 wrote:
Honestly if I joined the game now I would tire of lack of competition with human opponents and quit very soon because bot bashing is not what most people seek in online games.


I think more managers would leave, if they get bashed in every game. Bot bashing at the beginning is better. So managers have enough time to learn all the features of RZA. I know a lot of game, where the first phase is only bot bashing.
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Tarjan
posted: 2013-02-15 10:48:30 (ID: 83245) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
Here my idea for the so called super league:

In the first superleague season all championship finalists of all 1.1 Leagues are promoted. The 2 teams of one League play again in the same Division. This mean in the superleague the 8 division are equivalent to the 8 regions. At the end of the season the two worst team of each Regiondivision are replaced with the bowl finalists of the same 1.1. League region and the 2 teams go back to their original league.
So after every season the half league will be replaced by new teams. The worst 16 teams go back to their original league. All 8 Superleague divisions play at their original time.


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