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petef
posted: 2013-02-07 01:20:51 (ID: 81171) Report Abuse
I just took a look at my scouting agent. and there are at least 5 game changing studs on the market.
If this is what we consider as a small change I don't think I will be long for this game. I get that flooding the market will get money out of teams accounts and drive down the value of players but there will be no need to waste time focusing on building players anymore.

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detroit
posted: 2013-02-07 02:01:30 (ID: 81178) Report Abuse
yeah, cutting the huge cash piles of the players who started the game in September 2011 would just be a crying shame.
After all, they will just be the ones who will be getting these players first in exchange for their cash. Have to keep winning and beating those weakie
players who have joined later, you know.


keep up the good work, pete !

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KevinM2
posted: 2013-02-07 02:29:52 (ID: 81179) Report Abuse
And making those teams virtually invincible into the bargain by giving the top 30 or so teams unlimited, uncontested access to Mega players (due to them being able to outbid anyone).

In essence, this will produce a natural "Premiere" Division within Division one, where all the (Premiere) teams players are ridiculously highly rated, and will be unbeatable by anyone outside of this "Premiere" Division.

And obviously, this dominance will last for 5-10 seasons, depending on the age of the Mega players that they buy.

I do see, and accept, the argument that there is too much wealth in a few teams hands and something needs to be done to reduce this wealth dominance, but I don't feel this is the answer. I feel it only benefits these wealthy teams in the short to medium term, and lesser teams wont see any benefit for a few seasons, at least.

I'm sure there must be better ways of reducing (or effectively reducing) the coffers of these Hyper teams. For example (and this is purely off the top of my head). How does the NFL stop teams from simply "buying" the best players....Salary cap. Make it so a team can only spend a maximum amount per season on players. So not quite a salary cap, but a Purchase Cap.

If they want to spend their whole season's purchase budget on one player, then that's fine, they can do that, but they then couldn't bid again on any more players all season.

Give every team an annual season's (reasonable) spending limit on players. Once they have reached that limit, they can't bid on any more players.

By doing this, money overnight becomes secondary to the game (as it should be) because it's no use having $1billion in the bank if you can't use it for bidding on players. At that point it then becomes all about the football, and managing and developing your team...Not simply buying your team.

I also believe that this would effectively drive down players sale values, as ALL teams now have limited finite funds to spend to purchase players, so their value will naturally decrease.

Just my thought off the top of my head for a league wide fairer system for all teams in all divisions, and would give all teams a more equal chance to bid on players.

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petef
posted: 2013-02-07 02:39:58 (ID: 81183) Report Abuse
detroit wrote:
yeah, cutting the huge cash piles of the players who started the game in September 2011 would just be a crying shame.
After all, they will just be the ones who will be getting these players first in exchange for their cash. Have to keep winning and beating those weakie
players who have joined later, you know.


keep up the good work, pete !


I assume this is suppose to be a shot against me... but it doesn't make much sense. You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.
I have kept my comment to myself for the most part when people have come up with some of the most stupid suggestions or complaints. This was just one area that I need to speak up.
As I said I can see this will drain cash out of teams bank accounts but in doing so there will be no real need to farm your youth academy. Why would you when you will be able to pick up a better player on theopen market for a fraction of the cost that they demand now.(my guess a player now demanding 120mill will be able to be picked up for 30-40mill)
I have built my team through the use of all avenues. Draft, YA, developed the guys I started with and I have spent on the TM. IMO I have a good team. But that is from 6 easons of work! I just see this new rule as a move in a direction away from what first attracted me to this game. I will watch to see how this plays out and like I said then decide if I want to expend my energy here anymore.
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Warlord99
posted: 2013-02-07 02:42:41 (ID: 81184) Report Abuse
i dont see the FA hurting anything; there are still safeguards in place that prevent from just buying them outright; especially if someone wants a stud but the deadline is more than 24 hours away then they still have to bid which will undoubtedly drive the price up
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KevinM2
posted: 2013-02-07 02:51:15 (ID: 81185) Report Abuse
The problem I see is that all of these studs will undoubtedly end up being bought by the top 2% of the teams as that's where 90% of the leagues wealth lies. This would just make currently extremely strong teams simply invincible.

Plus, it just makes the whole thing about buying the best team rather than managing and building your best team.

The more I think about it, the more I like my idea of a Purchase Cap which would help everyone across the board instantly, and immediately drive down player values, along with making the game more about managing and developing your team, not buying a Superbowl!!
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Warlord99
posted: 2013-02-07 02:52:10 (ID: 81187) Report Abuse
you mean like a salary cap type deal?
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sfniner08
posted: 2013-02-07 02:56:50 (ID: 81188) Report Abuse
lol, dude, you can't buy a ring here. I am #2 in spending on the TM all time and have 0 rings. No, I annually put out quality teams and always go to the playoffs. I lose because of my tactics vs another team. If you could buy a ring, then me and turtle would have them all.

#1 on the buyer list has a league trophy in season 2 when we just started. His spending did little to get that trophy.

#2 I have went to the finals a couple of times, made the finals in the SC and CoC. Yet I have 0 wins in all of those finals.

#3 has one league championship in season 3

#4 has one league championship in season 4


I question if you could really but a trophy in season 3.

Spending money does not equal championships. lol.
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canonico
posted: 2013-02-07 03:00:06 (ID: 81189) Report Abuse
Warlord99 wrote:
i dont see the FA hurting anything; there are still safeguards in place that prevent from just buying them outright; especially if someone wants a stud but the deadline is more than 24 hours away then they still have to bid which will undoubtedly drive the price up


Do you not see that the teams that have more cash (aka are here longer) will most likely sign all the FA's off the market? What do you think will happen? No new teams will be able to outbid any of those already elite status teams! Not even a team like mine who is not new will possibly stand a chance against the already top tier teams that are both loaded with top players and are also loaded with cash, and now have the oportunity to dig even deeper and load some more.

Will it take money out of the game? Absolutely, but at what expense? I think the cost of this move will be far greater then it's reward.

-1 to this.

KevinM2 wrote:
And making those teams virtually invincible into the bargain by giving the top 30 or so teams unlimited, uncontested access to Mega players (due to them being able to outbid anyone).

In essence, this will produce a natural "Premiere" Division within Division one, where all the (Premiere) teams players are ridiculously highly rated, and will be unbeatable by anyone outside of this "Premiere" Division.

And obviously, this dominance will last for 5-10 seasons, depending on the age of the Mega players that they buy.

I do see, and accept, the argument that there is too much wealth in a few teams hands and something needs to be done to reduce this wealth dominance, but I don't feel this is the answer. I feel it only benefits these wealthy teams in the short to medium term, and lesser teams wont see any benefit for a few seasons, at least.

I'm sure there must be better ways of reducing (or effectively reducing) the coffers of these Hyper teams. For example (and this is purely off the top of my head). How does the NFL stop teams from simply "buying" the best players....Salary cap. Make it so a team can only spend a maximum amount per season on players. So not quite a salary cap, but a Purchase Cap.

If they want to spend their whole season's purchase budget on one player, then that's fine, they can do that, but they then couldn't bid again on any more players all season.

Give every team an annual season's (reasonable) spending limit on players. Once they have reached that limit, they can't bid on any more players.

By doing this, money overnight becomes secondary to the game (as it should be) because it's no use having $1billion in the bank if you can't use it for bidding on players. At that point it then becomes all about the football, and managing and developing your team...Not simply buying your team.

I also believe that this would effectively drive down players sale values, as ALL teams now have limited finite funds to spend to purchase players, so their value will naturally decrease.

Just my thought off the top of my head for a league wide fairer system for all teams in all divisions, and would give all teams a more equal chance to bid on players.



Nice post.
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petef
posted: 2013-02-07 03:00:55 (ID: 81190) Report Abuse
Hey SF

I read your post on the TM forum. I get your points but my gut just feels this is a bad move
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