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posted: 2011-11-22 18:04:37 (ID: 17352) |
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I would like to introduce trading of players. As we all know there is a lot of cheating potential in there, this is why I have a few questions, and I would like to hear your opinion about.
Imagine: One manager can offer a trade, by going into the players detail page of another team (human only). He can put in an amount, and send the offer. The owner of the player gets notified, and he has 7 days to confirm the trade. If he does not act, the trade gets canceled. If the owner confirms the trade, a 7 days review period is starting, where other managers could put a veto on that trade. More than X vetos after 7 days means, the trade will not happen. Once a veto is put, the vetoing manager can withdraw the veto - in such a case he can't put another veto on the same trade. Who is in charge of the review? This is the question. It could be a.) the managers of the league where the manager is from who offered the trade b.) a board of trade reviewers, managers, that applied for the job. The community has on each offseason the chance to vote for X managers out of the managers that applied for the job, somehow similar to the NT Coaches in that other game. c.) a mix of a.) and b.) d.) any other ideas? I can tell you, a trading function without reviewing will not happen, and the admin has the last word on the veto, a veto-veto. Can't wait to read your opinions, and stay calm when arguing about 
Updates on the general idea: - There should be a trade blog, where a manager could announce the player(s) he would like to trade, and the positions he is asking for - the initial idea to trade players for money only was not that good - there is a trading deadline somewhere during the regular season, so players cant go wild on the tradeblock only for the playoffs Last edited on 2011-11-24 19:14:17 by Admin |
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NYDOGS
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posted: 2011-11-22 18:09:09 (ID: 17353) Report Abuse |
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Admin wrote:
I would like to introduce trading of players. As we all know there is a lot of cheating potential in there, this is why I have a few questions, and I would like to hear your opinion about. Imagine: One manager can offer a trade, by going into the players detail page of another team (human only). He can put in an amount, and send the offer. The owner of the player gets notified, and he has 7 days to confirm the trade. If he does not act, the trade gets canceled. If the owner confirms the trade, a 7 days review period is starting, where other managers could put a veto on that trade. More than X vetos after 7 days means, the trade will not happen. Once a veto is put, the vetoing manager can withdraw the veto - in such a case he can't put another veto on the same trade. Who is in charge of the review? This is the question. It could be a.) the managers of the league where the manager is from who offered the trade b.) a board of trade reviewers, managers, that applied for the job. The community has on each offseason the chance to vote for X managers out of the managers that applied for the job, somehow similar to the NT Coaches in that other game. c.) a mix of a.) and b.) d.) any other ideas? I can tell you, a trading function without reviewing will not happen, and the admin has the last word on the veto, a veto-veto. Can't wait to read your opinions, and stay calm when arguing about
You speak about amount for the trade. Si it's not an exchange of players? |
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posted: 2011-11-22 18:17:24 (ID: 17356) Report Abuse |
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How about something like a "Trading Block" (TB)?
If I want to make a trade, I place player on the TB, instead of the market, and I indicate what I'm looking for in exchange. I could do this before or after contacting a team about a specific player I would like. Example: My 22yo 4* RB for: any 4* defensive player Then teams can post the player they would like to trade. The TB would be open to all to watch and make trade offers. If I already had an agreement with Team B for a player he could post him here, and other managers would hav a chance to offer their own players. Give it 3 days to run. It would be open for all to see, and for all to make offers, which hopefully lowers the opportunity for cheating. Another option is to allow managers to contact other managers with an Offer to buy a player. If accepted, then the player goes on the regular Transfer market with the opening bid from the team that contacted him. So I send an Offer of $500,000 to someone for his QB. If he accepts it, then his QB goes on the Transfer market with my bid of $500,000. If someone wants to pay more, then the price goes up. The seller is therefore guaranteed at least $500,000, and again the transfer is open for all to see and bid on. It would be nice to be able to acquire a player you want without waiting for him to go on the Market. ANy of these options could accomplish that. It's a matter of which feels like the fairest (and easiest to program and monitor!) |
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posted: 2011-11-22 18:18:55 (ID: 17357) Report Abuse |
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if it is a trading of players betweem two teams, I'd like :
- The idea b) (board of reviewers elected each years because I think these managers will be more able to evaluate the fairness as they will be for most experienced one). Anf if one is going bot, there would be a reelection for the spot. - But also, I like a d) solution implemented with it. The game engine could firstly evaluate the deal (player skill, age, talent...) as we already have a percentage value for each player potential skills. And so there would be an indicator when a trade is made (Very Fair Trade, Fair Trade, Average Trade, Unfair Tade, Very Unfair Trade) which would avoid quite well a cheating process IMO. I don't ask for a definite value of the trade but only a general idea of the fairness of it... |
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posted: 2011-11-22 18:19:38 (ID: 17358) |
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NYDOGS wrote:
You speak about amount for the trade. Si it's not an exchange of players? Direct buying! |
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posted: 2011-11-22 18:21:44 (ID: 17360) Report Abuse |
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Lee1950 wrote:
How about something like a "Trading Block" (TB)? 
Lee1950 wrote:
Another option is to allow managers to contact other managers with an Offer to buy a player. If accepted, then the player goes on the regular Transfer market with the opening bid from the team that contacted him. |
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posted: 2011-11-22 18:22:27 (ID: 17361) Report Abuse |
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OK. I'm not a big fan of it, because it's like the transfer markert without counter offer... i'd prefer a player trade system quite like in the NFL... So I did'nt make my mind about it now!
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posted: 2011-11-22 18:35:37 (ID: 17369) Report Abuse |
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There should be some hints or help to evaluate how much a player is worth if trading "player for cash" or "player for player(+cash?)".
Even i would find it difficult to understand a players worth, in the TM, we bid against others and stop bidding when we think its to much. With this trade system you must atleast point out some help regarding players value overall. OFC it will vary depending who you ask and whats the player looks like. Last edited on 2011-11-22 18:38:59 by KingOfTh3Hil |
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posted: 2011-11-22 19:00:15 (ID: 17375) Report Abuse |
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a) or b)
I really like the idea of a reviewed voting system. But if in a community a bunch of people decide that a somehow reasonable trade is not suitable for them or they simply dislike the team manager it could become difficult to judge the situation properly. This system could cause a lo of working time for the working staff. Last edited on 2011-11-22 19:02:08 by notsch |
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posted: 2011-11-22 19:15:18 (ID: 17378) Report Abuse |
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If it is just a trade of players for cash then it isn't really a player trade. It is just the same thing as the transfer market. For it to be a player trade then it should be player for player, otherwise I see no reason to have this proposal.
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