2024-12-20 09:19

And the regular season is over, and the Bowl season has begun on the same weekend, which is new since I do this blog.

Let's start with the last game of the season, the traditional Army-Navy-game.

The BLOCK OF GRANITE TOP GAMES FOR WEEK 16

Sat. Dec 14
Navy @ #22 Army
Man, I don't get these rivalry games.
Army did play good, the whole Season. Not top level, but good enough to get one of the best seasons under the current HC, if not THE best, and to win the conference.
They went into this game with almost a score as betting line.
And then ... Army was awful. Really awful.
The difference between the conference championship game and the Army-Navy game is the run game, which was cut to roughly a third of the production for the title.
And they had so many turnovers.
Navy came in well prepared and did their best, did score in every quarter and did not let Army get into this game.
Army did trail early and never recovered.
I did not see the game, but I think the main difference was, that against Tulane, Army was able to run and never was dependent on the passing game, and here, Army had to throw. because they could not run and they had to throw, because they were behind and obviously is the Army QB not a good passer.
The highlights I did see did look like Navys defense did also a good job on coverage and not all INTs are on the QBs bad decisions and throws, but overall, if the guy would be a better passer, like the team would not have lost that bad.
Navy won after the last INT late in the game and too home the win on the 125th meeting and the Commander-In-Chief-Trophy (played between Army, Navy and Air Force annually) from Army.
Navy 31 @ #22 Army 13 -> Jacks TOP GAMES Score: 36-15

Which brings us to the bowls.
Before I recap the 1st bowls, here an info, which did hit me like a truck, because the consequences could be huge for the upcoming future.
What happened?
It was just a small note, saying that Marshall (who won the Sun Belt this season) would drop out of the Independence Bowl against Army (who won the AAC).
As substitute Louisiana Tech (5-7, so they were selected as the best school NOT eligible with the highest APR (academic progress rate)).
Now that made me suspicious, since normally a team does not drop out of a bowl. Teams WANT to play in a bowl, because of the money, because of the prestige and because of the extra time for training and practice.
But here they did say 'no' AFTER they accepted the invite.
So, I asked myself, why?
And it did turn out, that over 25 players did list themselves in the transfer portal to switch school in the off-season, after the HC, who did lead the team to a Championship, was let go by the school (because his contract did run out and they did not prolong him) and a new HC was hired.
As I did state in the news last week, the timing of the hiring of a new HC and the announcement of the new school of the former Marshall HC does not fit into a long period of negotiation, so likely this was all set and done prior the Championship game. Why the players did now leave is not known to me, could be they did not like the timing and the fact that this coach was let go. Could be they don't like the new HC or could be they all want some extra cash as championship players.
Here is, why I'm concerned for the consequences.
The 1st is, such a team has 100+ players on the roster and 25+ did decide to leave, which makes it roughly 75 players are left to play. So why not playing?
Sure, it would be likely like FSUs game against Georgia last year, when FSU did experience such an exodus after the #5 ranking (and as result not being part of the playoffs), but regardless, the team should be able to play!
But they decided not to do that. Bad spirit. On top, this is Marshall, the school, which decided to rebuild their program after that tragic plane crash, in which almost the whole team was killed. They decided at that time not to build over some period and participate on games when they are ready, they decided to play on the next season, period. They got crushed, they got humiliated at times, but they decided to play and they did win one game in that season, a win which was worth more than a perfect season at that time.
But that's just on top of the issue itself.
The 2nd is, if now every business decision does lead into such an exodus, or potential it does, and bowl teams are no longer the teams form the season, why bother with bowls?
It seems, bowls did lose their special honor factor and are now just that game you don't play, if you like to switch or you like to get to the NFL in declaration year.
Pffffff.
In fact, the trend of leaving teams is clear. If you did build a team by transfers and the regular season is over and either the HC is changed or the goals were not fulfilled, the players rush out. Arizona, Arkansas, Mississippi State, Kentucky, Purdue, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Utah, all hit by 18+ leaves, Arizona even by 26 leaves.
And that was just power 4. In group of 5 you have New Mexico with 35!, Charlotte with 29, Marshall and Western Kentucky with 27 and then Coastal Carolina, Tulsa, Middle Tennessee, Sam Houston, Louisiana Tech and UAB with 20+ leaves.
Some leaves are for sure the hope for a better paycheck, now that players DO get paychecks. And some are coaches firings and hirings, like New Mexico.

But boy, look at the consequences. You don't build a team like it was in the past. There you did recruit and if you did it in a good way, you build a team in 3 to 4 seasons and then you have made a change for the better or not.
But now, you basically hire your team out of the portal with the best available and signable players and then you build that team in one offseason. And at the end of the season, the team as it was does likely fall apart again, off for the next, hopefully better, paycheck, and you start again.

It will be interesting to see, how this will turn out, over the seasons. Coaches want stability, so I can only expect that at some point contracts are starting to fly, like in the NFL, binding the player to play for seasons. But maybe that needs another revolution.

By the way, you might have noticed, that Louisiana Tech, the team, which did step in for Marshall in the bowl, was also hit hard on outgoing transfers, but they decided to play.

The FIRST SET OF BOWLs from next Saturday, 14th to Thursday, 19th of December.

Saturday, December 14
2024 IS4S Salute to Veterans Bowl
South Alabama vs Western Michigan
@Cramton Bowl, Montgomery, Alabama
Western Michigan came out with power and lead 10:0 early, but later in the 2nd quarter did then South Alabama just score and score for more, until they led 16:13 at the half.
The Broncos then still not very effective on offense and defense and USA did score a TD, only to allow a WMU TD beginning of the 4th.
The game now close again did the Jaguars turn on the Jets and scored another TD and hold the Broncos to a field Goal to finally Winning this 1st Bowl game of the Season, 30:23.
Jacks BOWL Score: 1-0

Tuesday, December 17
Scooter's Coffee Frisco Bowl
West Virginia vs Memphis
@Toyota Stadium, Frisco, Texas
The 1st quarter did not work out great for West Virginia, their offense did sputter.
Memphis did put on the 1st points on the board and then did the Mountaineers fumble, which led to a Tigers field goal.
Only after a 2nd Tigers TD a bit later did West Virginia start to play and when halftime came, Memphis did lead 28:17.
In the 2nd half, this game did evolve into a scoring fest, with both teams scoring often, but Memphis was always ahead.
Very late in the game, when West Virginia finally was behind only 5 Points and Memphis just ended their drive with a missed field goal, the Mountaineers offense had the chance last chance to turn the game around.
With 45 ticks left on the clock did West Virginia start passing, only to throw the ball in the hands of a Tigers player, who then lost the ball in a fumble, but the Tigers recovered, and the game was basically over.
Memphis won 42:37.
Jacks BOWL Score: 2-0

Wednesday, December 18
2024 Boca Raton Bowl
Western Kentucky vs James Madison
@FAU Stadium, Boca Raton, Florida
This game did have it all, except INTs.
James Madison did start the scoring in the 1st quarter but was unable to get good Things out of a WKU fumble and missed 2 field goals in the 2nd quarter, which led to a WKU lead at the half of 14:7, thanks to 2 TDs of the Hilltoppers in the 2nd quarter.
The Dukes then did get the lead back in the 3rd by a TD and a FG, this time at least getting something out of another WKU fumble.
The Hilltoppers did tie the game in the 4th by a field goal, but from here it then was all James Madison, who won the bowl at the end 27:17.
Jacks BOWL Score: 3-0

Art of Sport LA Bowl Hosted by Gronk
Cal vs UNLV
@SoFi Stadium, Inglewood, California
I have to admit, UNLV wanted to play in this bowl and either Cal did not or had a bad day.
The 1st half was quite even, but UNLV did show some extra effort, like a fake-punt-Play, which worked perfectly, and which did setup the leading TD, while Cal missed a 41-yard Field Goal.
UNLV did lead by 14:13 at the half.
Then came a long period of nothing, followed by a crucial fumble by Cal deep on their own half, which was recovered by UNLV, and which led to a rushing TD on the next play by the Rebels.
Now Cal under pressure but did not get much done.
After a 3-and-out did then a Rebels-Punt-Return set up another scoring drive of UNLV, but only a field goal.
After that did Cal again try everything and did play a regular play on 4th and 8 on UNLVs 45, with 4 minutes left to play.
That backfired heavily, the QB was sacked, lost the ball, recovered it, but since it was 4th down, UNLV got the ball mid-field.
From here onward, both offenses were unable to get something done, which led to an UNLV win in the bowl, 24:13.
Cal does actually win in almost every category in the stats, except the most crucial one, the score.
Jacks BOWL Score: 3-1

Thursday, December 19
R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Georgia Southern vs Sam Houston
@Caesars Superdome, New Orleans, Louisiana
Man, if you suck on a bowl, that must sting.
Georgia Southern did start their 1st drive after a quick Sam Houston drive, which led to a punt, and the QB did throw a WR screen pass, which was greatly intercepted to the house by a Defender, who had that shot only, because the WR assigned to block him, did suck big time doing so.
Later in the 2nd quarter did Georgia Southern throw another INT and luckily got the chance to redeem themselves after a Sam Houston Fumble in the following drive, which led to a Georgia Southern TD to tie the game.
OK, so all set to start and now make it right.
Uhmmm. No.
Sam Houston did marge over the field and scored a TD, the Eagles did answer with another INT and Sam Houston with another TD.
Georgia Southern did hit a field Goal for the half, but that did only change the score cosmetically to 21:10 Sam Houston.
In the 3rd it did look like Georgia Southern might get this turned around, scored 9 points on a TD and a field goal, but after that FG they gave Sam Houston again the room for a TD-drive and got intercepted AGAIN!
Later, Georgia Southern had finally another TD-drive, which did at that time cut the Sam Houston lead to 5 Points, with 9 ticks left to play.
Of course, the on-side sucked also and the Bearkats won the game, 31:26 for their 1st Bowl win ever.
The game did show Georgia Southerns inconsistence, which did cost them the season after a promising start.
For the Bearkats, with a new coach (see below), the future can be bright or not, we will see.
Jacks BOWL Score: 3-2

And from here, right to the coaches news.

North Carolina made a Homerun hire by getting Bill Belichick as new HC. Likely everyone knows Bill Belichick, the record setting former HC and de facto general manager of the New England Patriots. He stepped down from his position after the 2023 season and spend 2024 mostly on TV on some shows enjoyed the sabbatical. Now he returns to coaching and nobody had expected him to go to college level. The only downside on the hire is his age of 72, which makes him the oldest HC on FBS Level.

Another hiring from some time off did come in when Dan Mullen was announced to become the next HC of UNLV. Mullen was the HC in the past at Mississippi State and Florida. At Florida his 3rd and especially 4th season became so bad, that the school decided to fire him prior the last season game in 2021. He did spend his time since then as volunteer contributor to a High School team in Georgia. UNLV is a step backwards on the power-Level, but eventually, with good results of course, h aims a return to power-4 school. But maybe he just wants to Coach again.

A third hire was named, and that was also a surprise. West Virginia found their guy in giving Rich Rodriguez a 2nd stint as HC at the school. He was the HC between 2001 and 2007, when West Virginia was still member of the Big East. He did lead the team to 4 conference Championships and his success did give him the Job at Michigan from 2008 onward. But at that school, his success was limited and even the numbers did indicate a slow transition into a winning team, he was fired after the 2010 season. He left the school with the lowest Winning percentage of any Michigan Coach, ever. He was then hired by Arizona as HC in 2012, where he had good and bad seasons and he was let go after the 2017 Season, because of off field issues. In 2021 did Jacksonville State hire him as HC, at that time already in a transition state from FCS to FBS. This Season, after 3 years, the team did win the CUSA conference Championship. Now he returns to West Virginia, and all can only hope, the time of off-field-issues and NCAA violations (which he had several to justify in his Career) are over.

Wake Forest got hit blindsided (at least I read it that way) when their now former HC Dave Clawson resigned. He stays with the school in an adviser role, but of course the school has to find now a successor. Clawson was 11 seasons with the team and did guide the team, which is usually not a winning team, in 7 of his 11 seasons to a bowl and did win the division in 2021. His record with the team is 67–69, which is actually one of the best of all coaches there. I did look for a HC with a winning record at Wake Forest and found the last one to step aside in 1950! Since then, no coach was able to crack the .500, of course some had winning seasons, but overall, it's a tough place to win regularly.
But the team did not needed long to find a replacement, hiring Jake Dickert of Washington State. Dickert took over at Wazzu in 2021 as interims HC during the season, got promoted to HC for 2022 and compiled in total a 23-20 record. At Wazzu winning is also challenging, so he should be on familiar ground at Wake Forest.

Sam Houston found their guy in Wisconsins OC Phil Longo. Longo was once a HC in 2004 and 2005 on FCS level and had only limited success with 7-14 but left on his own terms to become an OC again, which was his job on several schools until now. At Sam Houston he has to establish the team on FBS level, since the team is only on that level since 2023.

New Mexico decided to take a FCS-level HC to the next level in hiring now former Idaho HC Jason Eck. Eck was the Idaho HC since 2022 and has built the team slowly into a winner, guiding the team to the playoffs in each season, the last 2 years up to the quarterfinals. His record is 26-13.

Brian Smith, the OC of Ohio was named Interims HC, when the HC was hired by Charlotte, and is now named the real deal by the school.
It's his 1st stint at HC at any school.

If I'm not wrong, only Jacksonville State is still Looking for a new HC.

Switch to the first round of the playoffs.

To remember, the playoffs feature 12 teams, selected as top 5 conference champions and the top 7 at-large teams not being conference champions, based on the committee ranking (similar to the past few seasons, where the top 4 teams in general were selected for the 4 spots available).
The top 4 conference champions do get an automatic bye for the 1st round, the rest is sorted based on their rank spot on the committee ranking and paired according to the usual rules you know from playoffs, so highest ranked team play lowest ranked team selected, 2nd highest plays 2nd lowest and so on.
Don't be surprised, the 4 highest ranked Champions are #1, #2, #9 and #12 with a bye, making the #3 ranked team the highest team in the 1st round and the #16 ranked team the lowest, which is a conference champ.

The higher ranked teams get home advantage, and the games are actually played on their home site and are not considered as bowls.

If you are interested, at ESPN is a bracket challenge on CFP (College Football Playoffs), where you can put in the whole set at once (similar to Basketball March Madness brackets).

1st round of playoffs

Friday, December 20
#8 Indiana @ #5 Notre Dame
Played in South Bend, this game is much better than it might have been in the last 20+ seasons as in-state-rival game.
In fact, since 1960 the 2 teams did not Play more than a single game against each other, in 1991, with a big win by the Irish.
Overall, the teams are 23-5-1 in favor of the Irish since 1898.
Strange for 2 teams not more than 200 miles apart in the same state.
But Indiana was always a Basketball school, while Notre Dame was always more a gridiron school.
THIS season, Indiana did take off and more or less never came down again.
The new HC had transferred the program from a losing school (last HC was fired after a 3-9 Season, Overall 33-49) within ONE offseason to a 11-1 Playoff team.
Granted, the team did not play many top contenders, and lost to Ohio State. But that OSU team did lose a week later to Michigan, which Indiana did beat 2 weeks before.
Notre Dame on the other hand lost their 2 games of the season against Northern Illinois and all (including me) thought, 'hmm, they might suck this season', but the team did take that loss and learned from it. Notre Dame did win all games since, finished 11-1 on a slightly tougher schedule as Indiana, I think.
Now they play for a quarterfinal spot in the playoffs and the Irish are favored by 7.0 Points, at home.
I think that's fair.
The best part from my point of view is Notre Dames defense, which will have a huge Impact on the outcome of the game.
If they can stop the good offense of Indiana, I think Notre Dame will not even win, they will win big.
If not, this will become a Shootout and then everything is possible.
I did pick Notre Dame to win at home in my bracket, so ...
Fighting Irish win.

Saturday, December 21
#10 SMU @ #4 Penn State
The 2nd 1st round game is a on paper a no-brainer.
SMU did play good season (11-2) and went to the Championship game of the ACC.
But there, they did lose, and only a late game comeback try made it a very close game, which Clemson won by a walk-off-field-Goal.
The reality was, that SMU was unable to do something in the 1st half.
And Penn State (also 11-2) is much better on defense, than Clemson, from my point of view.
Penn State lost to Oregon in a high scoring game, but Oregon is very good this Season and I think SMU is not the same level.
Vegas sees Penn State at home ahead by 8.5 Points. I think that might be OK, IF it stays a defense driven game.
If the scores do pile up, I think Penn State can do more and wins higher.
Nittany Lions win.

#16 Clemson @ #3 Texas
This game is a joke.
Texas was THAT close to win the SEC and Clemson did barely make it to the ACC Championship game and then found a bad SMU team to win the ACC on a field goal try at the end of the game.
Texas (11-2) did only lose 2 time this season, both to Georgia in close games.
Clemson (10-3) lost 3 times, against Georgia bigtime at Season start, against Louisville at home and on the road against South Carolina.
Played in Texas, this will be a quite one-sided game and I expect Texas to beat the line of -12.0 by a score or more.
That might be unfair from me, but I don't see Clemsons offense in shape to overcome the Texas defense and the Clemson defense had trouble with other good offenses, so why should Texas have trouble?
Longhorns win.

#7 Tennessee @ #6 Ohio State
This is the only really interesting game, and I did pick Tennessee in my bracket to win.
Why?
Tennessee had a good Season (10-2) and lost only to Arkansas and Georgia. They did show a lot of potential and have a good offense.
Ohio State had also a good Season (10-2) and lost to Oregon and Michigan. They have also a good team, but they do lack that final punch to get it done, from my point of view.
The loss to Michigan at Season final was tough and many did question the HC and the team.
Rightfully, since they lost now several times in a row that rivalry match.
Now they face a tougher team, lucky for them at home.
Vegas sees Ohio State ahead by 7.5 points, but for me, this will become a close game, in which Tennessee will be better to make that final punch for a win.
Volunteers win.

The winners will advance to the quarterfinals and will play the 4 conference champions having a bye in this round in 4 different bowl games end of the year.

That brings us to the next round of bowls.

The SECOND SET OF BOWLs from next Friday, 20th to Tuesday, 24th of December.

Friday, December 20
StaffDNA Cure Bowl
Ohio vs Jacksonville State
@Camping World Stadium, Orlando, Florida
The stadium was shifted to this location, the home of the Citrus Bowl and the Pop-Tarts-Bowl.
The bowl exists since 2015 and is now open for all group of 5 teams, plus eventually an ACC team.
So far, the Sun Belt did send a team to this bowl on every game (9) and has a record of 5-4 and did win the last 2 games.
This season it's the 10th time the bowl is played, and the streak will break, facing off now a MAC team vs a CUSA team.
In fact the bowl host the MAC Champ vs the CUSA Champ, but both teams under interims coaching.
Ohio is 10-3 this season, Jacksonville State 9-4.
All Teams from both conferences have lost in this bowl (both 0-2), so one conference will record the 1st win.
Vegas favors Ohio by 5.5 points, I do also favor Ohio, but I'm not sure, whether they will dominate, or not.
Likely they will not dominate.
Bobcats win.

Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl
Florida vs Tulane
Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, Florida
This is played since 2008, formerly known as the St. Petersburg-Bowl based on the former playing site in Florida.
The tie-ins were negotiated quite wide open since 2020, so basically this means the bowl organizer can s e l e c t teams assumed to draw some attention and willing to participate.
Planned are teams from AAC, ACC or SEC.
The game will be played in the stadium of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Since the teams origin does switch basically every season there is no clear picture on this, especially not for the ACC (3 games, 3 wins, including last year) and the BIG-12 (1 game, 1 loss, last year).
Florida (7-5) represents the SEC, which is 1-2 in this bowl.
They had a rough season, which did look like, it would be the last season of the HC, but the team did get together over the season and finished strong, making hope for next season, under the same HC.
Tulane (9-4) is from the AAC, which is 6-3 in this bowl.
They did start not good in the season against other conference, but did win all games inside the conference, until the last gameday.
Then they got to the AAC Conference championship game and lost big time against Army.
Against an SEC team, which did take out late in the season LSU and Ole Miss, this game is highly in favor by Vegas towards Florida (now -10.0, it was at some point -14.0).
I can only agree, this will likely be one-sided.
Gators win.

Monday, December 23
Myrtle Beach Bowl
Coastal Carolina vs UTSA
@Brooks Stadium , Conway, South Carolina
This is played the 4th time now, since it was founded in 2020.
They play in the stadium of the Coastal Carolina Chanticleers football team.
The bowl is owned by ESPN and has conference tie ins with the CUSA, MAC and Sun Belt.
Last season did the Sun Belt lost the 1st time and is now 2-1.
The MAC had their 1st game here last year and took home the win, now 1-0.
But we have a very wild Setup here, the Sun Belt represented by the stadium home team against a team from the AAC (the conference had one game in the bowl and won against a Sun Belt team).
Let's start with UTSA. The Team went 6-6 and did by that disappoint a lot of people.
Last season the team was 9-4, including a bowl win, and was supposed to be better this Season, but dropped 4 games alone inside the AAC to barely make it to a bowl.
And Coastal Carolina did also decline on the 2nd season with their new HC, from 8-5, including a bowl win, to 6-6, getting into the bowl mix by winning on last gameday.
Now they got invited to play in their own stadium against that other team in decline.
The difference here is, CCU is Sun Belt and UTSA is AAC, which means, the conference they are from are way different in level of strength.
But to be fair, the record this Season is actually 6-5 in favor of the Sun Belt against AAC teams, so maybe we WILL have a close game here.
I don't think we will, and Vegas thinks that UTSA is favored by 10.0 points, but we will see.
I personally think, UTSA has all the tools dominate here, if they show up to play.
Roadrunners win.

2024 Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Northern Illinois vs Fresno State
@Albertsons Stadium, Boise, Idaho
This is a quite long running bowl, since 1997, and it's played on the smurf turf field of Boise State Broncos.
It's basically a Mountain West bowl with some other team invited.
It started as a WAC bowl, so no wonder the WAC has send so far, the most teams to the bowl (13), but the MAC did send already 12 teams so far (5-7 record) and adds another this season.
The MWC got their 10th appearance last year but lost and is now 5-5.
But Fresno State can turn this again in favor of the MWC.
Vegas has them as underdog (NIU is favored by 3.0 Points), but you never know.
Seriously, Fresno State (6-6) and NIU (7-5) are hard to tackle here.
The Bulldogs are from a toucher conference but lost a game more and are not really in good shape, while NIU did win a game more, lost some winnable games inside the MAC, but did upset Notre Dame in their home stadium at week 2.
What to make out of this?
This is as much as a coin flip as it can get, and it is as exciting as it can get with 2 boring teams (for me).
Given the stadium and the likely conditions, I give NIU the nod, slightly.
Huskies win.

Tuesday, December 24
Hawai'i Bowl
South Florida vs San Jose State
Clarence T.C. Ching Athletics Complex, Honolulu, Hawai'i
Played basically on the practice field of the Hawai'i Rainbows, since the regular stadium has major problems and will likely be replaced.
The field has right now roughly 17.000 seats, which is the FBS minimum.
The old playing site, the Aloha Stadium, which was famous for the ability to be configured as Baseball- or Football-Stadium with movable ranks and featured basically a round or a long configuration, and which was also famous for the Pro Bowl of the NFL and the home field of the Hawai'i College Team, is shut down. THAT had 50.000 seats.
But this will be demolished in 2025 (moved from 2024) and new, planned 35.000 seat having, stadium will be built at a different location for the Rainbows and other stuff.
The Bowl has tie-ins on American, Conference USA and Mountain West.
Eventually surprisingly the CUSA did play here the most games and has a 9-4 record.
Last year the Sun Belt had their 1st game here and won and is by that the only other conference beside the CUSA with a winning record, 1-0.
But of course, we get something different on Christmas Eve, an American Team (conference is 0-1) against a MWC Team (Conference is 4-6, including a current 2 game losing streak 2022 and 2023). The fun part is, San Jose State (7-5) did play here last Season the 1st time and lost.
South Florida (6-6) is new here.
On paper, San Jose State should be better here, they did lose more or less only against better teams. South Florida on the other Hand did lose on the last gameday against Rice (4-8).
Fine, could be an abbreviation, could be nothing.
Vegas? Favors SJSU by 3.5 points.
That's not THAT much.
I personally think, San Jose is moving in the right direction under the new HC, and the team got better over time. So, with the time off and the goal to win here, they are more likely to win, than South Florida, which has their HC in 2nd year, did record the same amount of wins than last year (but won the bowl last year against a ACC team) and did ended the regular season with loss to Rice.
So, gut Feeling says Sa Jose State, but I would not be surprised, if not.
Spartans win.

That's it for the 2nd set of Bowl games.

'Til next time
Jack6 on BLOCK OF GRANITE

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