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pete
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posted: 2024-10-31 17:21:03 (ID: 100187250) Report Abuse
StuartW wrote:
I have been wondering how much planning and play testing you did, before day 1 of RZA, to come up with such a brilliantly balanced game?
2 years, and with the great help of our Knights ...
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Auers
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posted: 2024-10-31 20:48:08 (ID: 100187251) Report Abuse
Olband wrote:
Is anyone even still reading this?


Is the only of your question that I can answer
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Chrill
HAMBURG SEA LIONS

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posted: 2024-10-31 21:27:46 (ID: 100187252)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
Olband wrote:
How do you like 533 as a viable pass defense formation? Sure, there's not much backfield, but it (allegedly) puts more pressure on the QB, especially with a LB blitz, so that should mean less passes get well thrown, right? Risky, I'll grant you, but with talent in the backfield, it seems viable.

Interestingly the SEA LIONS are right now playing a team that seems to rely on 5–3–3 a lot, against the pass or the rush... and we cannot make much happen. So it does seem to work.

But I'd guess it's the same as with 4–4–3: if you choose to defend with only one Safety back there the chosen one should be very good. Or you have an awesome offense and can live with your opponent scoring "easy" TDs at any time and you just try to outscore your opponents in every game

Just now the SEA LIONS had a 2nd&2 SG2WR pass incomplete and a 3rd&2 SG4WR pass incomplete on our own 39, both against 5–3–3. Maybe it's because of sub-par talent on the field, because I have set up the DC according to the opponent who's also not very good personnell-wise... but it's maddening nonetheless.

EDITH: In the end we were able to win this one by a pretty wide margin (see here), but it took a 2nd half kick-off return for a touchdown to get comfortable. And even after that we did not get much going really, but that may be because of rushing the ball mostly with the lead...

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posted: 2024-10-31 21:34:45 (ID: 100187253) Report Abuse
Olband wrote:
This is just because there haven't been any discussion posts in a week... don't like the quiet.

I am so perplexed by the TE position in RZA. I like tight ends. I like using them in play. But they seem less effective than WRs in the passing game, there's no way to tell how effective they really are in the running game, they don't ever block in the passing game (still don't like that one,) and they take more training than other positions, so the question (not for the first time) is Are they Worth it?
I'm still playing with them because I do like them, but I hate this feeling of not knowing if it's a less-effective, and therefore wasteful, resource.
Any thoughts?

I think they are worth it, since if you avoid the TE position, the selection on formations without a penalty gets quite slim. But that's the managers decision.
Problem could be, that in the middle often the best LB, including very smart, is sitting and might INT more often, if you throw the ball to the TE.
Olband wrote:
Is there any benefit to passing to the left flank in a BigI formation? Seems like that would put your TE against their CB1 and an LB? Doesn't seem like a good recipe for success.

That seems to depend on your TEs skill set and the skill set of the defenders.
Remember that this is NOT real life, so no weight, the TE is not autoamtically slower, less agile or bigger than the defender.
But nobody knows what the engine does, so maybe the catch calculation is equal with a WR or not.
Olband wrote:
Do you ever put your best player in a given offensive position 2nd so that they'll get a better matchup instead of going head-on against what would presumably be your opps' best defender at that position?

I did that in the past sometimes, but with substitution and skill sets almost at the same level it does not matter much, whether #1 vs #2, #1 vs #1 or other stuff.
Olband wrote:
I doubt it, but is there any benefit to running your QB occasionally in wishbone, since that would be an option play and it would give one more player the defense would have to account for?

I never run by intention the QB, so no exp on that topic.
In general did the QB run not looked much better or worse than the regular one.
Olband wrote:
How do you like 533 as a viable pass defense formation? Sure, there's not much backfield, but it (allegedly) puts more pressure on the QB, especially with a LB blitz, so that should mean less passes get well thrown, right? Risky, I'll grant you, but with talent in the backfield, it seems viable.

In my competion called 'Leatherheads'm, where only running is allowed, but sometimes passes happen, the 5-3-3 defense was the one most of the time played (since run was expected) and got burned with many big play pass plays then. So, very risky defense.
You MIGHT stop the pass play, or you get burried on a 80 yard pass TD....
Olband wrote:
Does a pass medium/deep playcall still have increased interception chance against a 533? or against anytime the defense is defending against a run?

I did not test specific defenses, but the increased INT-chance is for sure there.
Olband wrote:
Does anyone ever use the pass medium call?

Yes, if the game is more or less lost, if not fast a TD comes in, the medium call, if successfull, gives many yards, so with 3-4 plays you could get 50+ yards easily. But of course the INT chance is also big.
Sometimes it feels like the chance to force a fumble or INT as defense has the same chance than getting such desperate drive done.
Olband wrote:
Is anyone even still reading this?

Obviously is reading not the problem. Answering is on the forum.
I'm sure any post is likely read by 10 to 50 people, but often not one is answering. Depends of course on the topic and how the post is written.
Olband wrote:
It's more satisfying to build your team by developing players, but might it be more cost-effective to just buy ready to start vets? If your developing not-yet-1st-stringers cost $50-150K/week for 4 seasons while you patiently get them up to snuff, but you can buy an enough-snuff player mid-season and pay $200K+ for half a season while you get his TW up, haven't you saved moolah? (not to mention YA/facility costs)

You have a point, but buying means either constant scanning the market and then being lucky to get the player cheap or willing to pay the highest price, or to take a player available and then train them with less effort to the setup you want.
I think the best way is using all 3 pools, YA, Draft and Market, to get the team done.
Money is not THAT issue, if you BUILD a team. A mature team is different, but it seems most managers do not have a reload-plan, more often a rebuild-plan.
Olband wrote:
Does anyone else find that stats which don't support opinions you want to believe can just be ignored?

Not sure what you mean, but the stats I hate the most are W on my opponents records, while I'm SURE their teams are not build in a smart way.
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Uaschitschun
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posted: 2024-11-03 10:10:10 (ID: 100187298)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse



For my team, no matter how good my defense is, passing is something I can't stop. Once I was in PO with 32nd defense in passing (WORST). And really don't know what to do. When you run scrimmage almost every pass is ALMOST INTERCEPTED, but QB still get like 70-75% completions and no interceptions





edit : this was a quote from Dumbarajko but I am as bad as quoting as defending against passing game...

There's a lot of things I cannot answer in this thread. But I have the same problem you have, I can't do anything against a pass offense. Yesterday I lost against Falcons who chose to make a lot of passing in shotgun 4, and I was unable to get a single pick. I don't know how to change this. I have to search but I Think 32nd pass defense was mine last season!

Last edited on 2024-11-03 10:11:04 by Uaschitschun

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Auers
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posted: 2024-11-03 10:20:56 (ID: 100187299) Report Abuse
Uaschitschun wrote:
I have to search but I Think 32nd pass defense was mine last season!


According to RZA, seems you were 31st in passing yards allowed
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posted: 2024-11-03 10:23:25 (ID: 100187300) Report Abuse
Auers wrote:
Uaschitschun wrote:
I have to search but I Think 32nd pass defense was mine last season!


According to RZA, seems you were 31st in passing yards allowed


That's much better
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posted: 2024-11-03 10:24:45 (ID: 100187301) Report Abuse
Personnaly, I tend to think that I'm not too bad against the pass.

It's as simple as this : be awful against the run, so your opponents will prefer to run the damn ball
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posted: 2024-11-03 11:39:51 (ID: 100187302) Report Abuse
Radu91 wrote:
This will be a perfect opportunity for Steve, Rufio, Holly, ptDoc, Lallen, Shadow, Skeetz and others to step up and share with us their wisdom, because let's be honest, they are the TOP DOGS in this game with multiple title won.
This should be fun


Flattery works every time....I don't have any strong opinions on the topic. I like TEs because passing out of Big I/Flex/Wish (and Goalline) can often get your opponent's defense in a rushing defense formation. Over a small sample size, I found that passing only to the flanks resulted in my QB throwing more INTs and getting sacked more often. So, need to have TEs for my offensive scheme
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