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| posted: 2022-12-05 22:09:47 (ID: 100170744) Report Abuse | |
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That was some of the point I was trying to make in my first post. This isn't a coaching game; it's a management game, and I'm cool with that. I just sometimes feel like you can spend a lot of time on the playbook, but it's not the biggest factor in the game, so I kinda have mixed emotions about it. I appreciate those others who have chimed in, as I was curious how others felt about it. I am not at all encouraging a major change for RZA.
(though I might keep beating my drum about the special teams plays, or lack thereof) |
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| posted: 2022-12-05 22:15:10 (ID: 100170745) Report Abuse | |
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I guess this cannot work.
If you discuss RZA, you would have to discuss the management part, and the gamesim part. Of course, Playbooks do not influence economy directly. At the same time The type of contracts you award to players does not influence the gameplay in a direct way. But, for the gamesim part, a proper playbook is not just an option, it is key - together with some other stuff. |
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| posted: 2022-12-06 04:45:35 (ID: 100170748) Report Abuse | |
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For any single game, random can have a significant effect. Over time that effect evens out and random will have no effect on your teams success.
Does player quality have a large effect on the game? Absolutely, but the top teams all start to have 80%+ ratings, $6-7M pay roles and somewhat similar builds. There isn't this giant gap in player talent between these top teams. Eventually, you need to have a good PB to win consistently. At the top level, I think playbooks (and tweaking them a bit for your opponent) are at least 50% of long term success. Steve SD Blitz |
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| posted: 2022-12-06 21:02:31 (ID: 100170760) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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My team is already in offseason. And when I'm in offseason I get bored. And when I get bored I do some nonsense.
Maybe this doesn't make sense either but I'm going to complement this post with some data: I've taken the data of all games of Dragons 1 in season 49 and I've taken the overall ratio of the teams in each game. How many games are won by the team with the higher overall ratio and how many by the team with the lower overall ratio. The summary is in the following table.  Source: https://i.imgur.com/fCGpTpQ.jpg Last edited on 2022-12-12 17:17:47 by popopotamo |
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| posted: 2022-12-06 21:07:43 (ID: 100170761) Report Abuse | |
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nice job, I like numberchrunchers
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| posted: 2022-12-06 21:23:09 (ID: 100170762) Report Abuse | |
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popopotamo wrote:
My team is already in offseason. And when I'm in offseason I get bored. And when I get bored I do some nonsense. Maybe this doesn't make sense either but I'm going to complement this post with some data: I've taken the data of all games of Dragons 1 in season 49 and I've taken the overall ratio of the teams in each game. How many games are won by the team with the higher overall ratio and how many by the team with the lower overall ratio. The summary is in the following table. Overall Ratio Difference on Wins/Losses The link is not working for me... P.S.: I did the same a couple of seasons ago trying to "evaluate" the PB of each team. But never posted it. |
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| posted: 2022-12-06 22:25:04 (ID: 100170770) Report Abuse | |
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Solana_Steve wrote:
For any single game, random can have a significant effect. Over time that effect evens out and random will have no effect on your teams success. Does player quality have a large effect on the game? Absolutely, but the top teams all start to have 80%+ ratings, $6-7M pay roles and somewhat similar builds. There isn't this giant gap in player talent between these top teams. Eventually, you need to have a good PB to win consistently. At the top level, I think playbooks (and tweaking them a bit for your opponent) are at least 50% of long term success. Steve SD Blitz Yes, I was kinda getting this gist from the others. When you're in the top, there's not as much difference in talent level, so it somewhat removes that variable. So similar question to those accustomed to playing at the top, how much of a game's outcome vs a similar quality team is playbook or luck? |
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| posted: 2022-12-12 14:35:37 (ID: 100170878) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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I have compiled my human vs human games from S49 (21 games) and S48 (26 games). I was the best overall rated team on 44 games and the worst only on 2 games. In 1 match the overall ratio was equal. My record was 34-13.
The overall ratio difference (ORD) on losses was 2.1 which means that in all those 13 games that I lost I was (in average) 2.1 points "better" than my opponent. The ORD on wins was 13.3 points. My win with the closest ratio difference was in a 1.6 points ORD. My worst loss was in a game where my team was 11.1 points better (which I have just realized was a MOTY from my opp). Discarding this game, my worst losses were on 2 games where I was 3.3 points better. My conclusion: my roster quality is good (81.9 overall ratio during the last two seasons) but I am unable to beat similar teams because my PB is still under the average... Last edited on 2022-12-12 18:23:59 by linkleo911 |
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