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pderekdactyl
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posted: 2022-12-07 21:24:29 (ID: 100170786) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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It's been a long stated tenet of mine to "always listen to PJ". I'm at a similar point as he is, but I am going to try to do something to reinvigorate my interest rather than head to botsville at this exact moment. That might happen next season, but this season I'm going to try to keep myself occupied.
So ... this season is the Season of Experimentation. I expect to be less successful, but I also expect to keep myself more entertained doing so. I'll u p d a t e here occasionally throughout S50 with what I did differently compared to what I normally do in my various games/scrimmages as well as how that turned out for the Malones. Some things will be roster, depth chart, meta type things, but others will be specific playbook things that I am trying. If you ask a question I'll give you as close to a a real answer that my personality allows instead of my normal shrouded in competitive secrecy/tossing shrapnel at Rufio/kind of actually answering answer. I am willing to disintegrate any competitive advantage I think I might have. Malones currently have enough credits for more scrimmages than what I'm capable of actually setting up and analyzing all season (especially with winter holiday season approaching), so I have a fully stocked testing field ready to go. Edit: everything here is concerned with what matters for competing for Elite title etc .. that level has different needs and matchups. Last edited on 2022-12-07 21:50:51 by pderekdactyl |
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| posted: 2022-12-07 21:44:06 (ID: 100170787) Report Abuse | |
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I like that. Enjoy!
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pderekdactyl
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posted: 2022-12-07 21:46:07 (ID: 100170788) Report Abuse |
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Offseason/Preseason theories to work on because they matter for overall team construction
1) Do OG and OC skills actually matter if I only rush to the outside and pass? Thoughts: The NTs and DTs never to almost never make tackles on these plays, but it is possible that the missed blocks by OG and OC lead to worse actual performance by the offense. It's widely believed that OL work as a unit and TW matters. So, if a guy at OG/OC has high TW but terrible blocking will it matter? Does the unit get a unit lift on traits and INT as well? Hard to know. But, it's way easier to find high TW/INT guys than it is to find high TW/INT guys that are also strong, have all the OL skills at high enough levels, and also have traits. This is what I'm currently running scrimmages on. I have backups that I would never have played this season at OG and an OOP CB at OC with 16 blocking. We'll see if this OL squad tanks the offense. 2) I'm not going to pass inside this season. All Flanks all the time. Thoughts: I'm going to say that TEs drop more and also that those passes get intercepted more often. I'm not sure if this also holds for all defensive and offensive formations, but I do feel that it is generally true. I'm also not sure if that's true because TEs have more skills to train so skills are slightly worse overall, or worse ACs generally. But, I do feel that it is true and I do not have a TE AC at the moment so not passing to these schmucks focuses my AC power on guys my offense is going through. That also means that my TE depth chart is changing this season. I don't particularly care about speed or carrying/catching really. Sorry 48.5 skill trained sticky finger TE, you're hitting the bench. Because I'm basically having a 6th or 7th OL play there who happens to be listed at TE. 3) Does speed actually matter for DEs? Malones teams of recent have had almost exclusively 50 STR and 50 SPD (or really close on both). But, the only DEs that get sacks at the Elite title level games are DEs that have fearsome. Part of this was planned, part of this is because of retirements. Ideally I would have paid more attention to the TM the past couple of seasons and picked up slow guys with higher tiered traits (at least that I value) or more dual traited guys, to truly test this cost benefit. I can kind of get there, but I'm not as deep in the traits as I'd like to truly test this. Theory is: I'd rather spend (as an example) 4M to acquire a slippery + fearsome slow dude than 50M to acquire a slippery + fearsome fast dude. Then dump that 46M (just an example) into something else. Obviously if you have unlimited funds than even if spd isn't all that important you'd rather have that spd than not have that spd. |
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| posted: 2022-12-08 14:09:20 (ID: 100170791) Report Abuse | |
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Sounds like you're trying to find exploitable flaws in the system. Not an unusual tactic for gamers, but I really like that you're publishing your intent and results, very transparent. If you find something that's OP, it'll give that 900-year-old guy something to do. (cause I'm sure he's just sitting around bored)
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| posted: 2022-12-08 14:14:45 (ID: 100170792) Report Abuse | |
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Olband wrote:
he's just sitting around bored Spoken the truth you have |
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| posted: 2022-12-08 15:14:56 (ID: 100170794) Report Abuse | |
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pderekdactyl wrote:
Offseason/Preseason theories to work on because they matter for overall team construction 2) I'm not going to pass inside this season. All Flanks all the time. Thoughts: I'm going to say that TEs drop more and also that those passes get intercepted more often. I'm not sure if this also holds for all defensive and offensive formations, but I do feel that it is generally true. I'm also not sure if that's true because TEs have more skills to train so skills are slightly worse overall, or worse ACs generally. But, I do feel that it is true and I do not have a TE AC at the moment so not passing to these schmucks focuses my AC power on guys my offense is going through. This was a news flash to me. I thought setting up some inner passes after rush plays was a good idea, as sometimes you can get a big play from it, but didn't know about int rate for inner passes, so I dug some: From my league games this season, (small sample size, but still telling,) 23 interceptions were thrown between my and opps teams. 19 of them were innies, only 4 were outies. I think there might be some validity to his TEs need more skills theory, but I also so them with WR targets. I'm guessing there's also a tendency to have some of your best players as MLBs. For my official games this season, my 1st MLB caught 21 picks, and my 4 CBs caught a total of 9. Also, the bulk of league leaders in ints were LBs. I also looked at the big pass plays. In my experience, (mostly against non-elite teams,) you can get big pass plays against 4 man fronts, so I was thinking maybe inside passes is a risk/reward play. In my league game this season, there were exactly as many big plays to the inside as the outside. So against elite teams, its harder to catch teams in bad formations? Also, on those big plays to the inside, there were as many 344 formations as 4 and 5 man fronts, so there goes my theory. I think he's on to something here. Bummer, cause I like the TE position in football, but the numbers suggest they shouldn't be used as a pass-catcher in RZA? That would be unfortunate, because I like game balance and don't want to see this type of inbalance.  |
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Maynard
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posted: 2022-12-08 15:19:36 (ID: 100170795) Report Abuse |
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I'm sure there's something on the noob thread and I should look/post there. But in the spirit of experimentation, what would happen if you never blitzed in a game? Is there a tradeoff? Would leaving the linebackers back lead to better coverage, or no? If this has been answered, nevermind. But if not, maybe that would be an interesting experiment? I know you're not looking for "experiment ideas" but besides messing with my draft order, I got nothing else to do.
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pderekdactyl
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posted: 2022-12-08 15:31:34 (ID: 100170796) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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Maynard wrote:
I'm sure there's something on the noob thread and I should look/post there. But in the spirit of experimentation, what would happen if you never blitzed in a game? Is there a tradeoff? Would leaving the linebackers back lead to better coverage, or no? If this has been answered, nevermind. But if not, maybe that would be an interesting experiment? I know you're not looking for "experiment ideas" but besides messing with my draft order, I got nothing else to do. You would get a lot less sacks. Sacks = good, ergo your team would do worse. The sack rate isn't even close. There's some tradeoff (if teams run against your pass blitz they tend to run for more yards), but it pales in comparison to getting sacks. If I'm 100% confident it's a run, I don't LB blitz. If I think it's a pass or it's 50/50, then I'm sending a LB max 75%. If I think that it's most likely a run, but could be a pass and I just don't want to give up a big play, then I have used 0% Blitz but in pass D. But, those are pretty rare. Third down and 11-20 I've used that as well. But that's a more conservative approach to defensive playbook calling. Last edited on 2022-12-08 15:34:43 by pderekdactyl |
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| posted: 2022-12-08 15:32:48 (ID: 100170797) Report Abuse | |
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Maynard wrote:
I'm sure there's something on the noob thread and I should look/post there. But in the spirit of experimentation, what would happen if you never blitzed in a game? Is there a tradeoff? Would leaving the linebackers back lead to better coverage, or no? If this has been answered, nevermind. But if not, maybe that would be an interesting experiment? I know you're not looking for "experiment ideas" but besides messing with my draft order, I got nothing else to do. For what it's worth, my leading interception LB I mentioned is also my leading sack getter. DL sacks are far rarer than LB blitz sacks, so you'd be trading off getting anything in the way of sacks for a chance at a few more picks? And somewhere Yoda has mentioned that blitzing also increases pressure on the QB, leading to more bad passes. As for that tradeoff bit, after reading Cheesehead's post about fearsome trait, I've loaded my DL with ball stripper more than fearsome, but now I'm questioning that wisdom. I like getting turnovers as much as the next guy, but how big of a difference does that even make? |
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Maynard
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posted: 2022-12-08 16:22:00 (ID: 100170799) Report Abuse |
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You guys are great. Thanks for the thoughtful responses.
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