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Captain Jack
posted: 2023-03-07 11:44:39 (ID: 100172606) Report Abuse
I think we need a change to the process for hiring coaches. This is my reason why:

My HC retired. I placed a bid on a new HC that no one else had bid on. Some time later another player bid on the coach. We then alternated increasing our bids. Much more recently a third player bid. Again we then alternated increasing our bids. Finally I decided to wait (and gamble) until the last few seconds. The gamble was how long I could leave my bid so as not to allow it to be overbid without me then having a chance for a counter-bid.

This was not fun. It was stressful for me. It also felt like sticking a knife into the back of the other two players. I won the bid but don't feel so great about it.

The other two are now stuck without a HC as the start of season approaches. It is possible that they will end up in this same situation again and if they cannot hire a HC before the season starts ALL of their existing coaches are counted at only 50CP! This seems unfair.

In addition other good HCs that they might have chosen have now been sold to other players. So even if they get a HC it will be an inferior one. I feel sorry for them.

Can we not change the system so that we do not bid on Coaches, especially at season end? We just pay what they ask for. It is also not realistic to bid on coaches.

If you want a little 'fun' in 'negotiations' then why not make it similar to the Contract Renewal of players? You have a 'requested' price, you are allowed to offer less than that, after the 5th offer is declined they will not renew their contract or in the case of coaches they will not sign for you.

At least this way the decision is immediate and you do not lose crucial time during pre-season with the worry that maybe you will not get a coach, especially a HC, at all before the season starts.

Although tbh my preference would just be for a straightforward offer which they accept.
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linkleo911
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posted: 2023-03-07 13:33:23 (ID: 100172610) Report Abuse
I think we could go "deeper" on it and try to reformulate all coaching management including "training" them and implementing a contract system similar to what players have.
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Captain Jack
posted: 2023-03-07 13:38:16 (ID: 100172611) Report Abuse
linkleo911 wrote:
I think we could go "deeper" on it and try to reformulate all coaching management including "training" them and implementing a contract system similar to what players have.


I would agree with you but I would like to get a 'quick fix' implemented first and then perhaps bring in the other suggestions in stages. That way maybe we can more easily get agreement from others on progress.

So Stage 1 - End bidding
Stage 2 - implement contracts similar to what players have.
Stage 3 - "training" coaches.
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linkleo911
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posted: 2023-03-07 14:21:52 (ID: 100172612) Report Abuse
Captain Jack wrote:
linkleo911 wrote:
I think we could go "deeper" on it and try to reformulate all coaching management including "training" them and implementing a contract system similar to what players have.


I would agree with you but I would like to get a 'quick fix' implemented first and then perhaps bring in the other suggestions in stages. That way maybe we can more easily get agreement from others on progress.

So Stage 1 - End bidding
Stage 2 - implement contracts similar to what players have.
Stage 3 - "training" coaches.


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BoaTek
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posted: 2023-03-07 14:49:26 (ID: 100172614) Report Abuse
Captain Jack wrote:
Can we not change the system so that we do not bid on Coaches, especially at season end? We just pay what they ask for. It is also not realistic to bid on coaches.

If you want a little 'fun' in 'negotiations' then why not make it similar to the Contract Renewal of players? You have a 'requested' price, you are allowed to offer less than that, after the 5th offer is declined they will not renew their contract or in the case of coaches they will not sign for you.


Not trying to offend, but I am not following the logic here. We do already place bids for players that are NOT on our roster. The same with coaches. I just don’t see why we would do away with competitive bidding. It is more realistic that you would have a bidding process for talented coaches. They should cost more, and in some cases, a heck of a lot more. Depending on team’s needs across the leagues.

There will be winners and losers and there is no bidding etiquette I am aware of. Yes, there is a penalty to be paid for not getting a coach in on time, but managers should plan ahead. We know when coaches are more likely to retire, so avoid the hassle if you want and replace them before they retire. And yes, there is a cost to taking that route as well. Life is made up of trade offs.
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BoaTek
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posted: 2023-03-07 14:53:10 (ID: 100172615)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
And my example for realism in the bidding process would be Sean Payton. How many teams did he interview with? Good coaches are bid on in real life. Sometimes it’s money that entices them, sometimes it is control. We only have money in RZA.

Last edited on 2023-03-07 14:53:29 by BoaTek

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posted: 2023-03-07 15:44:47 (ID: 100172617) Report Abuse
Oh, so we should offer a "Bill modus", where the HC can take GM duties as welll?
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Captain Jack
posted: 2023-03-07 16:01:18 (ID: 100172618) Report Abuse
Well obviously no interest in being fair. Talking of RL I do not believe there is a limit on the number of coaches available or have I got that wrong too?
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posted: 2023-03-07 16:23:30 (ID: 100172620) Report Abuse
Captain Jack wrote:
Well obviously no interest in being fair.


It is already fair. All the managers that had interest in that coach had the same access to land him. What you are proposing is a first come, first serve access that cuts out the ability for any other manager to get access. At least that is how it appears to me. Maybe I have misunderstood.
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posted: 2023-03-07 16:24:40 (ID: 100172621) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Oh, so we should offer a "Bill modus", where the HC can take GM duties as welll?


No. I am quite capable at ruining my team all by my lonesome.
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