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posted: 2023-09-19 11:22:34 (ID: 100176917)  Edits found: 3 Report Abuse
I am reading texts about American Football IRL, sometimes. I also watched some games in the past. But there is a number of questions, that keep returning and I hope the answers would allow me enjoy playing RZA much more (not to mention - watching IRL games, or even reading football related texts).

With no further ado, question number 1:

How does the coach decide, what defensive lineup to proceed with?
Suppose he recognised 4 well-known WR players in the opposed team's offense lineup on the field, and he thinks it'll be a pass play (prefer: pass ).
But (unlike in the RZA) - it's too late to replace, say an SS and one of the DL's, with 2 extra CB's. Am I right?

A) You're wrong. It's never too late for lineup change, until the ball hasn't been played.
B) Tough luck. On the plus side - within certain limits players are not forced to their dedicated positions (except the number of DL's - too late to change that, sorry). And each formal lineup on every team has pre-designed (and well-practiced) optional formations made of the same players.
C) None of the above. The correct answer is ........................... .


EDIT: @Pete - I miscalculated the thread title length. Of miniscule importance, but if you find the energy for it, please edit the whole thing to any liking that would fit the space. Sorry.

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posted: 2023-09-19 11:35:19 (ID: 100176918) Report Abuse
ps. Of course I do not consider it an exclusively jpnwrt's questions thread . Feel free to ask yours (if I am not the only black sheep in a herd, which I am afraid I might).
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posted: 2023-09-19 13:34:02 (ID: 100176922) Report Abuse
jpnwrt wrote:
A) You're wrong. It's never too late for lineup change, until the ball hasn't been played.


Unlimited substititutions are allowed, but they can only be executed when the ball is dead. Meaning: beforre the snap.
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posted: 2023-09-19 13:59:38 (ID: 100176923) Report Abuse
torakrid wrote:
jpnwrt wrote:
A) You're wrong. It's never too late for lineup change, until the ball hasn't been played.


Unlimited substititutions are allowed, but they can only be executed when the ball is dead. Meaning: beforre the snap.


I see.. Thanks. One doubt I have - does it mean it's possible, that first team A is doing a substitution. Then team B is substituting in response to the sub by team A. Then team B again responds by yet another substitution. And so on?
Or do you mean - only the defensive team can substitute, after both lineups are on the field?
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posted: 2023-09-19 14:09:38 (ID: 100176924) Report Abuse
jpnwrt wrote:
torakrid wrote:
jpnwrt wrote:
A) You're wrong. It's never too late for lineup change, until the ball hasn't been played.


Unlimited substititutions are allowed, but they can only be executed when the ball is dead. Meaning: beforre the snap.


I see.. Thanks. One doubt I have - does it mean it's possible, that first team A is doing a substitution. Then team B is substituting in response to the sub by team A. Then team B again responds by yet another substitution. And so on?
Or do you mean - only the defensive team can substitute, after both lineups are on the field?


In principle yes, but there are two more things.
1) The offense has 40 seconds to start the play.
2) A player who was in the huddle can no longer leave the field. Only after the play.
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posted: 2023-09-19 18:01:05 (ID: 100176935) Report Abuse
Thank you!
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posted: 2023-09-20 11:38:09 (ID: 100176956) Report Abuse
Usually this happens:

The offense does substitute their lineup and the other side does count the players. How many TEs, how many RBs, how many WR? The line is usually fix, the QB also. This of course gets interesting, once you have players able to play different positions.
But assuming all numbers are fix, you have a package on the offense fix, unknown is the formations and play.

As it was written, once the huddle starts, the package is fix, so the defense can adjust, like pulling a linemen from the field in exchange for a LB or a DB to have lighter setup or a heavier setup.

Now you have the defense setup fix.

Once the offense setups the formation you know how to setup your defense and you adjust according the formation you selected on your side so that everything is covered, you you change the formation and even play and adjust to the option you want.

Now everyone has a job, like maybe the Defensive Ends having outside containment, the SF playing cover 2 defense and secure the deep ball in zone coverage, the other guys securing the short zones.

If for some reason the personal on the field does not match the offense setup, like you have a skinny DB covering a bulky TE, you either go with it and hope, for example if there is no time to adjust, or you adjust to better matchups.

Normally you don't change the linemen setup, but if needed, some DEs can play also LB and some LBs can play SS.

A good defense does scout the opponent and knows the packages, and knows how the intention is on every play. So if mismatches come up, because something surpring happen, the defense as unit adjusts best possible.
Sometimes that is attached to a single player, sometimes it involves several ones and of course it's THAT what an offense tries to create to take advantage out of it (like the pool skinny DB) and why sometimes big plays happen.

Overall the people are just human and they have to deal with so many issues on the field at the same time, that errors happen.

It's easy to forget that they do not have the same view as the TV or stadium viewer, they stand on the field, with a limit field of sight and only communication can fix those limitations.
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posted: 2023-09-20 11:51:04 (ID: 100176959) Report Abuse
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