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posted: 2011-10-19 19:47:32 (ID: 13774) Report Abuse
Okay, I know that formation put a different set of players on the field, but is the simulation deeper than that? Are there inherent strength and weakness for the various formations?

Do you get a bonus from running out of the I formation over a shotgun? Is you're using 6 defensive backs versus a 2 WR set, are you double covering a receiver so there is some defensive bonus?


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posted: 2011-10-19 19:57:01 (ID: 13775) Report Abuse
I would have to assume it is like real life football in that the players would move in the formations the same.

I formation is an obviously better formation to run with versus using a shotgun if you are playing a 4-3 or dime. You have more blockers with the i formation and even more so with the Big I. I don't think there is any guess work as to what formations are more conducive to running and passing in general, but scouting your opponent's tendencies can really help you to decide what formations to run with and what ones to pass with.
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posted: 2011-10-19 20:12:14 (ID: 13776)
There is no advantage based on the formation itself. The players dont behave different because only the name of the formation changes. But differences come up due the number of available men per stage, and the distance to LOS as example. The distance (to LOS, to carrier) and depth are the main things on Defense.
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posted: 2011-10-19 20:40:16 (ID: 13781) Report Abuse
Admin wrote:But differences come up due the number of available men per stage, and the distance to LOS as example. The distance (to LOS, to carrier) and depth are the main things on Defense.

Is it correct to think of 'stages' as short (~ 0-to-10yards to LOS), Medium (~ 10-20-yards from LOS), etc?

So - does a formation that loads players into the short stage mean you have more players with a chance to have a positive reaction to offensive plays that target the short area (runs, short passes)?
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posted: 2011-10-19 23:21:46 (ID: 13786) Report Abuse
Okay, I can understand how that works for the defense. A 5-3-3 defense has more DLs for an running back to run through than a 3-3-5 defense. So the chance that he gets tackled by a D-Lineman is higher with 5-3-3.

But what about in the case with Shotgun 4 WRs [2 right, 2 left]. Its not like WR1 gets a shot at catching the pass and then WR2 gets a shot at catching the pass, right? The QB can only target one WR. I suppose he can s e l e c t the one the is the most wide open....

I mainly ask this question because of the way it works in some other game...

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posted: 2011-10-20 06:54:12 (ID: 13792) Report Abuse
I think the most success of the offense depends on the oponents defense.

If you use 4 WR most teams defend with a Dime defense. So you have litte success with passing and most time success with runs in a 4 WR set.

Samething with I-Formation against a 5-3-3 Defense. Less success with runs, sometimes more success with pass plays.
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posted: 2011-10-20 07:28:20 (ID: 13799)
Lee1950 wrote:
Admin wrote:But differences come up due the number of available men per stage, and the distance to LOS as example. The distance (to LOS, to carrier) and depth are the main things on Defense.

Is it correct to think of 'stages' as short (~ 0-to-10yards to LOS), Medium (~ 10-20-yards from LOS), etc?

So - does a formation that loads players into the short stage mean you have more players with a chance to have a positive reaction to offensive plays that target the short area (runs, short passes)?


Stages meant: DLine, MLBs, OLBS, SSs, FSs...
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posted: 2011-10-20 07:30:49 (ID: 13800)
Solana_Steve wrote:
Okay, I can understand how that works for the defense. A 5-3-3 defense has more DLs for an running back to run through than a 3-3-5 defense. So the chance that he gets tackled by a D-Lineman is higher with 5-3-3.

But what about in the case with Shotgun 4 WRs [2 right, 2 left]. Its not like WR1 gets a shot at catching the pass and then WR2 gets a shot at catching the pass, right? The QB can only target one WR. I suppose he can s e l e c t the one the is the most wide open....

I mainly ask this question because of the way it works in some other game...

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The QB selects WRR1, as example. WRR2 is on the field too. If there is a Defense with only one CBL on the field, it depends on the OLBL, if the CBL gets help with those two attackers or not. If there is no help the CBL is lost, alone, even my Grandma could catch the pass
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posted: 2011-10-20 07:58:30 (ID: 13805) Report Abuse
Admin wrote:
Solana_Steve wrote:
Okay, I can understand how that works for the defense. A 5-3-3 defense has more DLs for an running back to run through than a 3-3-5 defense. So the chance that he gets tackled by a D-Lineman is higher with 5-3-3.

But what about in the case with Shotgun 4 WRs [2 right, 2 left]. Its not like WR1 gets a shot at catching the pass and then WR2 gets a shot at catching the pass, right? The QB can only target one WR. I suppose he can s e l e c t the one the is the most wide open....

I mainly ask this question because of the way it works in some other game...

Steve
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The QB selects WRR1, as example. WRR2 is on the field too. If there is a Defense with only one CBL on the field, it depends on the OLBL, if the CBL gets help with those two attackers or not. If there is no help the CBL is lost, alone, even my Grandma could catch the pass


yeh but grandpa cant throw it that well or like my QB blind and the left arm of a t-rex... bloody useless.
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posted: 2011-10-20 08:22:06 (ID: 13814) Report Abuse
"my QB blind and the left arm of a t-rex"
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