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Cheesehead
posted: 2017-05-05 12:19:39 (ID: 100103378)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
bwadders76 wrote:
Why would you play relaxed and MOTY?


You play relaxed the game after you play MOTY to recover quicker.

Last edited on 2017-05-05 12:20:13 by Cheesehead

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thomastem
posted: 2017-05-05 15:55:55 (ID: 100103387) Report Abuse
bwadders76 wrote:
Rock777 wrote:
I'm assuming the last three posts were all jokes, but there are very good tactical reasons why you would play relaxed in a game (and still expect to win). Especially in combination with MOTY.


Why would you play relaxed and MOTY?


No sarcasm in this reply.

Because both decisions come with strategic advantages and disadvantages. The manual covers what they are. I assume that is why Pete put them in, to add a strategic decision in managing a team.

I have no problem with people that decide not to use these 2 strategies. The problem that comes up is when those that do not use it want to dictate that no one else should be allowed to make these strategic decisions since they themselves don't want to, similar with how the push against diverse playbooks have been.

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Rock777
posted: 2017-05-05 22:17:09 (ID: 100103410) Report Abuse
I agree. There are actually really good tactical reasons not to use MOTY and relaxed. It is all situational. Personally I try to squeeze in my MOTYs whenever possible because it gives your players more experience. But MOTY comes at a very high cost to conditioning.

It is actually also a valid strategy to play relaxed before a MOTY. Especially if you are playing a pushover bot or something. Every scrap of conditioning is valuable. I generally avoid relaxed as it comes at a high cost to experience, but sometimes you want to save those extra 2-3 points in conditioning to recover from MOTY or make it through a tight matchup. In certain situations it is a good tactical choice.
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philjc
posted: 2017-05-06 07:29:53 (ID: 100103422) Report Abuse
This isn't about folks playing relaxed, MOTY or their young players. It's about kicking or punting on first down for the entire game.
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frankie nice boy
posted: 2017-05-06 12:43:33 (ID: 100103433) Report Abuse
I play RZA since S8 and till now I never played relaxed, not even a single friendly match. I think it's a better choice to field your reserves playing normal, so they can gain some experience still keeping up a competitive team to a certain extent. But I don't want get rid of any option, contrarily I would like to have even more options to play, more choices and more differentiated opportunities. A richest game is a better one, not a "mutilated" game. Even worse is to mutilate a game because of cheaters and misfeasor.

I suppose everyone is engaged in a sport management game has also a sporting philosophy and way of life, I know I am ingenuous in this regard...I want to win every single match or at least give my best and ruin my opponent's plans. IMHO this is the way to play the game! Also take into account that cheaters and sly ones are able to speedily exploit any loophole, so penalise all the managers because of few ones isn't for sure a good idea. Instead kick them out, it's a far better solution lose such harmful people.
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Bovakian
posted: 2017-05-06 13:06:32 (ID: 100103434) Report Abuse
frankie nice boy wrote:
I play RZA since S8 and till now I never played relaxed, not even a single friendly match. I think it's a better choice to field your reserves playing normal, so they can gain some experience still keeping up a competitive team to a certain extent. But I don't want get rid of any option, contrarily I would like to have even more options to play, more choices and more differentiated opportunities. A richest game is a better one, not a "mutilated" game. Even worse is to mutilate a game because of cheaters and misfeasor.

I suppose everyone is engaged in a sport management game has also a sporting philosophy and way of life, I know I am ingenuous in this regard...I want to win every single match or at least give my best and ruin my opponent's plans. IMHO this is the way to play the game! Also take into account that cheaters and sly ones are able to speedily exploit any loophole, so penalise all the managers because of few ones isn't for sure a good idea. Instead kick them out, it's a far better solution lose such harmful people.


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Captain Jack
posted: 2017-05-06 19:42:20 (ID: 100103452) Report Abuse
Bovakian wrote:
frankie nice boy wrote:
I play RZA since S8 and till now I never played relaxed, not even a single friendly match. I think it's a better choice to field your reserves playing normal, so they can gain some experience still keeping up a competitive team to a certain extent. But I don't want get rid of any option, contrarily I would like to have even more options to play, more choices and more differentiated opportunities. A richest game is a better one, not a "mutilated" game. Even worse is to mutilate a game because of cheaters and misfeasor.

I suppose everyone is engaged in a sport management game has also a sporting philosophy and way of life, I know I am ingenuous in this regard...I want to win every single match or at least give my best and ruin my opponent's plans. IMHO this is the way to play the game! Also take into account that cheaters and sly ones are able to speedily exploit any loophole, so penalise all the managers because of few ones isn't for sure a good idea. Instead kick them out, it's a far better solution lose such harmful people.



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Stanford87
posted: 2017-05-07 13:42:45 (ID: 100103492) Report Abuse
frankie nice boy wrote:
I play RZA since S8 and till now I never played relaxed, not even a single friendly match. I think it's a better choice to field your reserves playing normal, so they can gain some experience still keeping up a competitive team to a certain extent. But I don't want get rid of any option, contrarily I would like to have even more options to play, more choices and more differentiated opportunities. A richest game is a better one, not a "mutilated" game. Even worse is to mutilate a game because of cheaters and misfeasor.

I suppose everyone is engaged in a sport management game has also a sporting philosophy and way of life, I know I am ingenuous in this regard...I want to win every single match or at least give my best and ruin my opponent's plans. IMHO this is the way to play the game! Also take into account that cheaters and sly ones are able to speedily exploit any loophole, so penalise all the managers because of few ones isn't for sure a good idea. Instead kick them out, it's a far better solution lose such harmful people.


I think you're confusing long term strategies with missing passion to win games here.
I guess nobody starts playing RZA with the goal to loose as many games as possible, but players are willing to sacrifice short term for the sake of long term achievements.
In this regard it's vaild to say that tanking is just a extreme form of rebuilding, as it is no different than selling all your players, buying a "rookie squad" and saving all the incoming money.
So a player who owns 40 2* players but has $1 billion in his bank account is also tanking, because he is not fielding the best team possible.
Bringing this thought to an end it's also valid to say that every RZA player who owns more money than he needs to get through the offseason is tanking, because he is not fielding the best team possible.
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gabriel06
posted: 2017-05-07 13:51:57 (ID: 100103493)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
what was your excuse/reason for tanking as badly as the OP for 2 full seasons?

Last edited on 2017-05-07 13:54:29 by gabriel06

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Stanford87
posted: 2017-05-07 14:12:40 (ID: 100103494)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
gabriel06 wrote:
what was your excuse/reason for tanking as badly as the OP for 2 full seasons?


I actually tanked for 3 1/2 seasons.
I've already stated the reason in my previous posting: long-term strategy.
Before this season there were constantly 2 teams superior to mine in my division, so I weren't able to make the playoffs anyways. So why bother trying and risking to get worse draft picks?
As a person and a member of this community I can absolutely understand that people are annoyed by tankers and get angry when their rivals get an advantage because they play tankers (I would be really pi**ed too, if that happened to me), but as the general manager of my franchise I don't care if I screw somebody elses playoff plans our ruin someones season, I exclusively care about my franchise and do what (I think) is the best to improve it.
And I think this egocentric, anti-social way of playing is the most realistic and also the most likely to succeed.

Edit: No, I'm not trying to get an advantage for my personal strategy here, since I'm done with tanking and I also have no future plans to do it again.

Last edited on 2017-05-07 14:14:50 by Stanford87

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