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waky53
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posted: 2019-03-07 04:22:05 (ID: 100137307)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
You would not be playing against a penalised team if for example you got promoted to Elite league because your team would also be elite and penalised in the same way, and if an elite team gets demoted back down the penalties go away. Players in the Elite league should be paid more as they are, in effect, the best players in the game.

Last edited on 2019-03-07 04:22:51 by waky53

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jetto
posted: 2019-03-07 07:32:11 (ID: 100137311) Report Abuse
I like this idea of increased wages a lot - maybe not only for EL Teams but also for PO participants in X1 Leagues?
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PJRAVENS
posted: 2019-03-07 07:53:36 (ID: 100137312) Report Abuse
X1 league teams need money to grow up.
The ones that benefit more of the PO income leave the X1 League going in EL.
So X1 League remain balanced.
EL teams playing regularly PO are already at the top they cannot leave EL League.
If I am not wrong the topic is fill a little bit this gap.
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PJRAVENS
posted: 2019-03-07 10:13:35 (ID: 100137316)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
Meitheisman wrote:
I agree, the main problem is the huge gap between Elite where the top 10 teams in the game dominate and the 1.1 leagues where we have borderline top 10 teams but also teams ranked as low as 288th. Considering that we currently have 364 teams in RZA this means that in the same league you can have a team in the 3rd, 4th percentile playing in the same division as a team in the ~80th percentile.

Since reducing the number of leagues is not really an option I think the best solution would be to create another league level between Elite and 1.1, maybe with 2 leagues?

Something like:
Elite
Pre-Elite AC - Pre-Elite NC
Fire 1, Sea Devils 1, Dragon 1 etc...


I like this!
The goal to achive in my opinion is maximize the number of closed matches at any level.

This is my out of focus proposal if we could start from scratch:
I am prepared for getting lynched too.

League N. Teams Tot
EL 1 32 32
L1 2 32 64
L2 4 32 128
L3 8 32 256
Total teams: 480
If L4 needed like as is
L4 8 32 256
and so on

Promotion / Relegation Rules
Upper league:
1 team x division relegation
last 4 team of the 8: relegated
Teams from 4 to 1 of the 8: relegation match
Lower league
4 bowl contender promoted
4 conference losers relegation match

PO extra income for all leagues but elite.

I think in this way teams in the leagues should have a short overall difference and be more competitive.

Pete what would be the effort? A night or two I suppose, my advice is for free

Last edited on 2019-03-07 10:24:15 by PJRAVENS

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Buziano
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posted: 2019-03-07 10:27:54 (ID: 100137317) Report Abuse
PJRAVENS wrote:
Meitheisman wrote:
I agree, the main problem is the huge gap between Elite where the top 10 teams in the game dominate and the 1.1 leagues where we have borderline top 10 teams but also teams ranked as low as 288th. Considering that we currently have 364 teams in RZA this means that in the same league you can have a team in the 3rd, 4th percentile playing in the same division as a team in the ~80th percentile.

Since reducing the number of leagues is not really an option I think the best solution would be to create another league level between Elite and 1.1, maybe with 2 leagues?

Something like:
Elite
Pre-Elite AC - Pre-Elite NC
Fire 1, Sea Devils 1, Dragon 1 etc...


I like this!
The goal to achive in my opinion is maximize the number of closed matches at any level.

This is my out of focus proposal if we could start from scratch:

League N. Teams Tot
EL 1 32 32
L1 2 32 64
L2 4 32 128
L3 8 32 256
Total teams: 480
If L4 needed like as is
L4 8 32 256
and so on

Promotion / Relegation Rules
Upper league:
1 team x division relegation
last 4 team of the 8: relegated
Teams from 4 to 1 of the 8: relegation match
Lower league
4 bowl contender promoted
4 conference losers relegation match

PO extra income for all leagues but elite.

I think in this way teams in the leagues should have a short overall difference and be more competitive.

Pete what would be the effort? A night or two I suppose, my advice is for free



I personally would like this very much. I would always apply the same logics behind income rules so I would not scratch the PO money for any PO contender. If ever I was to make it I would be counting on the income. Right now, for the first time I train athletes over 40, which I had never done before. Logically salaries will go up. It's my most serious try to get to Elite level.
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OrangeCrush
posted: 2019-03-07 10:31:35 (ID: 100137318) Report Abuse
waky53 wrote:
Players in the Elite league should be paid more as they are, in effect, the best players in the game.


They are not. A SD 1.1 team will probably in 2 or 3 updates take the crown from the FA mascots and be the most talented Team in RZA all time

In RL, the best players want to play in the best league, as the best leagues generate the most income and will pay their players more. In RZA Elite does not generate more income than any 1.1 league, which is not realistic, but imo good for the game.
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Buziano
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posted: 2019-03-07 10:38:00 (ID: 100137319) Report Abuse
OrangeCrush wrote:
waky53 wrote:
Players in the Elite league should be paid more as they are, in effect, the best players in the game.


They are not. A SD 1.1 team will probably in 2 or 3 updates take the crown from the FA mascots and be the most talented Team in RZA all time

In RL, the best players want to play in the best league, as the best leagues generate the most income and will pay their players more. In RZA Elite does not generate more income than any 1.1 league, which is not realistic, but imo good for the game.


I agree. And you were talking about my team obviously, right ? ...
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OrangeCrush
posted: 2019-03-07 10:46:14 (ID: 100137320) Report Abuse
Buziano wrote:
I agree. And you were talking about my team obviously, right ? ...


hmm

top rated teams

Would be a pretty big jump from No.64 to No. 1
I guess another SD team has a better chance
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Buziano
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posted: 2019-03-07 11:21:32 (ID: 100137321) Report Abuse
OrangeCrush wrote:
Buziano wrote:
I agree. And you were talking about my team obviously, right ? ...


hmm

top rated teams

Would be a pretty big jump from No.64 to No. 1
I guess another SD team has a better chance


I agree. He has the experience and a superb young team. This season our teams met twice with a huge win for my team. Soon this will look much different. His young QB is the bomb and he is not the only one.
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marinarul10
posted: 2019-03-07 14:39:24 (ID: 100137326) Report Abuse
Buziano wrote:
OrangeCrush wrote:
Buziano wrote:
I agree. And you were talking about my team obviously, right ? ...


hmm

top rated teams

Would be a pretty big jump from No.64 to No. 1
I guess another SD team has a better chance


I agree. He has the experience and a superb young team. This season our teams met twice with a huge win for my team. Soon this will look much different. His young QB is the bomb and he is not the only one.


The point here is that any team in RZA can build a huge rated team and in theory, been able to compete with the best.... there is absolutely no need to penalize anyone, is not there the issue ....
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