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Captain Jack
posted: 2020-05-03 22:01:42 (ID: 100148806) Report Abuse
With the number of Bots increasing in Division 1 (some leagues more than others) is it still viable to keep the Elite league running?

Would it not be better to have these human teams redistributed back to Division 1?
Certainly in Monarchs the experience of many seasons is that the two that go up this season are the two that come down next. So it seems there is a gap. It does not seem much fun playing for 3 months winning 2 or 3 games and then going back to where you started. (To me Elite now seems more like a punishment than a reward)
Meanwhile all the old rivalries are upset because the returnees often go to other divisions other than that from whence they came.
Perhaps the Elite teams could be reconfigured in the Supercup whereby the 32 teams could be put into two Elite Supercup divisions, if necessary keeping them separate from the rest of the Supercup.

What are people's thoughts?
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kevinisking
posted: 2020-05-03 22:23:07 (ID: 100148808) Report Abuse
Elite could operate the same if it were not to be eliminated but serve as a whole different game like Supercup or champ of champs. Maybe play the games on Fridays in place of friendly for those teams, and Wednesdays, without worries about PC hits, income, or moral hits and anything of that sort. Make it just a fun aspect of being elite while keeping the top-level league undisrupted in terms of loosing 2 top teams every season, divisional rivals did away with and clearly taking the joy of managers away that go for one season and back down sometimes in worse shape than when they left.

I remember going through the gallant of Thunder 2.4 to 2.1 to finally the 1.1. and I really looked forward to facing Strytan Bears (excuse my spelling) & Landru Athletics just to see the elite form that same season. Needless to say, those matchups never happened. I didn't like the ideal then and left after a few more seasons.

I faced the Athletics for the first time ever this season, and I am disappointed as they were not their elite selves (and maybe going bot). All in all, I don't see the value of top teams leaving every season in the top league level.
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posted: 2020-05-03 22:23:15 (ID: 100148809) Report Abuse
to be prepared for the time rza carries 32 or less managers, I should get rid of all leagues except Elite.

Seriously, getting back the Elite manager into even weaker D1 is not a great goal, imo.
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linkleo911
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posted: 2020-05-03 22:25:16 (ID: 100148810) Report Abuse
We may open a "region change window". The ones who might want to move to a new region should take the place of bot teams. Just an idea...
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posted: 2020-05-03 22:32:39 (ID: 100148814) Report Abuse
we discussed this before. And we have that in Redzoneclash. Personally, there is a downside with chaging regions. You cannot do such exchange except for the lower league level, which means managers would have to tank, to go down. In RZC, there is only one level, which is why it was easier to decide.
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badgers
posted: 2020-05-04 01:25:07 (ID: 100148816) Report Abuse
How about we just structure Elite promotion/relegation the same way as we do Division 1-2 promotion/relegation. That way two teams from each region have a chance for promotion, one automatic and one a relegation game. The result would be some more longevity in Elite league but maybe with a little more incentive to get up there, as things wouldn't be shaken up as much.
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LuLuBa
posted: 2020-05-04 06:57:12 (ID: 100148824) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
we discussed this before. And we have that in Redzoneclash. Personally, there is a downside with chaging regions. You cannot do such exchange except for the lower league level, which means managers would have to tank, to go down. In RZC, there is only one level, which is why it was easier to decide.


If it is technically already implemented on RZC, we should have a discussion on this. Personally I see many benefits, if it is possible at season end to swap with a Bot or another managed team (that accepts) which will be at the same league level next season.

Players can move to regions with more or less competion. Strength levels of the regions will probably balance over time. Managers can move to a perhaps more prefered kickoff time.

I totally agree in the past years, it always felt like a punishment in the Monarchs region to be promoted into Elite. In other regions it is different. Finding a way to balance out the strength of the regions, will definitively help.
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posted: 2020-05-04 08:29:44 (ID: 100148826) Report Abuse
I know it would change the whole structure of the game, but I would say in the long term the game would benefit from a big change.

1) Sandbox-league to learn, similar to div 2 but a more round robin format like Supercup filled with max 18 teams, hence 17 games per season (so no buy week) and always filled up wit new teams, while older teams have to lave after max 2 seasons. The amount of leagues is volatile, means, if another one is need, it gets opened. Min 4 teams needed to add another league, too small leagues at season end get fused and empty leagues get deleted.

2) a linear structure of levels Elite the highest and then it goes down with 32 teams each (or other stucture) with promotions and relegations. If linear is not ok because of time zones, max 4 regions (but I think that might just shift the problems a bit).
Sandbox teams do get shifted to lowest open league in regular structure.

3) Supercup becomes open competion with each week a matching a similar strong team as opponent, based on wins and losses, not ELO.

3) Camp of Champs gets scrapped for a wider smal tornament mode, which motivates more managers.

Just my 2 cents.
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posted: 2020-05-04 08:57:13 (ID: 100148828) Report Abuse
Now I ser Elite as a whole different championship only with the best teams of each region. Maybe (just maybe) it should be a competition between the best 32 teams (or even less, just 16) independently from which region the team comes from. I always wanted ELO to take a bigger role so it could be a way to choose the teams in Elite every season.

The bad part of it is losing many rivalries...
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LuLuBa
posted: 2020-05-04 09:21:46 (ID: 100148829) Report Abuse
linkleo911 wrote:
Now I ser Elite as a whole different championship only with the best teams of each region. Maybe (just maybe) it should be a competition between the best 32 teams (or even less, just 16) independently from which region the team comes from. I always wanted ELO to take a bigger role so it could be a way to choose the teams in Elite every season.

The bad part of it is losing many rivalries...


There are always pro's and con's.
Removing Elite League would bore some top managers without much competition in the region, but if we allow region change, it would be fine from my points of view.... new challange, who is first to win the title in all regions

CoC needs to be changed anyway. Either all Elite teams taking place and no one else or if no Elite exists anymore all conference or even division champions from each League 1 region.

Supercup is fine from my point of view in each scenario.
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