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alexshans84
posted: 2021-05-06 11:58:31 (ID: 100159132) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
And the rule, which exists since the start, just doesn't make much sense.
Sure it's a rule and fine, but it's also just stupid that you have to sell a good prospect, because you can't train him in the YA, while buying a prospect grants you the option to train him in the YA.


I'm with jack6 on this. If we can't train our draftees in the YA then we shouldn't be able to train draftees bought in TM.
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Kanar
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posted: 2021-05-06 15:31:10 (ID: 100159142)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
I would like to say that maybe we should be more cautious about the words we use. I disagree with you, and you consider that the rule is just stupid. I would like to keep this rule, does that mean I am just stupid too or that you think I am?

I do not try to find a logic between draftees, YP or TM players. I just would not like to make the roster development easier than it is already. We can already manage to turn draftees into starters with the current system. In the NFL, not all the draftees keep their job once by the end of the pre-season. It should be the same as well in RZA where we already improved their quality long time ago and limited their age more recently.

Now if Pete decides to apply the same rule for TM players tomorrow, fair enough. I would not encourage it, but I would adjust.



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posted: 2021-05-06 15:54:01 (ID: 100159144) Report Abuse
Kanar wrote:
I can not recall if I express my opinion on this topic in the past. I strongly lean on Pete side. I like the idea to have several separated ways to build your roster. A good manager, even in Elite can often manage to turn two out of three draftees into starters or back-ups. By adding the draftees in the YA, I think you remove the value of the drafting skills.

As ChoadW said, draftees also feed the TM and I like that.

It must be hard to build a great team. Many decisions already made it easier. I would not add another.


Agree with this completely. I've only played three seasons and, while constructing my roster wasn't exactly difficult, it's certainly been a challenge. That challenge and the decisions involved have been what's made it fun and why I keep logging in.
More decisions and opportunities for variations in team building, maintenance and strategy are what will keep this game enjoyable.
More structure and handicapping things will move it toward boring.
I originally thought draftees should go to the YA as well, but then everybody would just draft YA eligible players and rarely sell their draft picks. This would limit player movement and team development throughout RZ would get bogged down and less interesting.
I don't mean to insult anyone, but challenges are fun. Figure it out.
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posted: 2021-05-06 15:57:45 (ID: 100159145) Report Abuse
alexshans84 wrote:
jack6 wrote:
And the rule, which exists since the start, just doesn't make much sense.
Sure it's a rule and fine, but it's also just stupid that you have to sell a good prospect, because you can't train him in the YA, while buying a prospect grants you the option to train him in the YA.


I'm with jack6 on this. If we can't train our draftees in the YA then we shouldn't be able to train draftees bought in TM.


In most cases, sold draftees will go from teams with few needs to teams with more needs. So let them train their guys, that's not hurting anyone.
If a good team buys a guy to develop, then they earned it.
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PJRAVENS
posted: 2021-05-06 16:06:08 (ID: 100159147)  Edits found: 6 Report Abuse
Can We think about this topic like this?
A drafted player will never accept to make a step back and go to the YA.
He aims to play and be in the senior team and have his money.
But life is tough and only after being fired he undestands that he is not ready to play...
When a new team gives him a new chance, he is so happy that he accepts even a place into the YA.
The team who bought him and spent money (sometime huge amount) has the advantage to train him in the YA.
The team who has him for free... no!
now ... it sounds better?

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posted: 2021-05-06 16:16:17 (ID: 100159149) Report Abuse
PJRAVENS wrote:
Can We think about this topic like this?
A drafted player will never accept to make a step back and go to the YA.
He aim to play and be in the senior team and have his money.
But life is tough and only after being fired he undestands that he is not ready to play...
When a new team gives him a new chance, he is so happy that he accepts even a place into the YA.
The team who bought him and spent money (sometime huge amount) has the advantage to train him in the YA.
The team he has him for free... no!
now ... it sounds better?


Yes. Agreed
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posted: 2021-05-06 16:47:38 (ID: 100159152) Report Abuse
PJRAVENS wrote:
Can We think about this topic like this?
A drafted player will never accept to make a step back and go to the YA.
He aims to play and be in the senior team and have his money.
But life is tough and only after being fired he undestands that he is not ready to play...
When a new team gives him a new chance, he is so happy that he accepts even a place into the YA.
The team who bought him and spent money (sometime huge amount) has the advantage to train him in the YA.
The team who has him for free... no!
now ... it sounds better?


PJ spitting logical real life examples. Who called this guy the leader of the Loonies?
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PJRAVENS
posted: 2021-05-06 17:59:35 (ID: 100159161) Report Abuse
Rufio13 wrote:
PJ spitting logical real life examples. Who called this guy the leader of the Loonies?


Raving Loonies!!
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posted: 2021-05-07 05:16:04 (ID: 100159194) Report Abuse
I never said someone is stupid, just that the rule is stupid.

And real life compare are not working, since the rules and environment here are different and some stuff here is as it is to have management decisions to make.

But if you like: In the NFL drafted and non-drafted players are sometimes cut and sometime put into practice squad. None is going back to YA.

So that compare does not really work, since we CAN by drafties and put them back to YA then.

All I'm complaining about is, that this rule doesn't make sense and I think changing this would not really change the game much.

Right now, I more or less ignore the draft, since I usually don't get much out of it, because all usfull players would need a boost. So max I keep 1 per season the rest is sold or cut. That does not sound like a good management option. My opinion is, that all 3 ways to get players should be similar attractive and should give options. I basically lean on YA, the rest is unattractive for me.
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PJRAVENS
posted: 2021-05-07 07:21:54 (ID: 100159200) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
I never said someone is stupid, just that the rule is stupid.


Just to be sure there are no misunderstandings from my side...
I have only tried to figure out the logic behind the present rules...
I am not against your opinion at all.
Also your vision has his own logic, and could be adopted.


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