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| posted: 2025-01-31 19:31:49 (ID: 100189011) Report Abuse | |
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pete wrote:
Just for clarification: The described situation might be yours, but is not the average one. Most exisiting teams kick 1 or 2 draftees immediately after the draft happened. This means: how worthy a draft run is, is determined by the quality of the team's roster. So this means as well we should discuss if we want to shift the outcome to make fresh teams taking more advantage from the draft, or if the draft should provide more food for the well established teams, or - and this is my thinking - if we want to address the average of both. In my opinion the draft is kind of balanced, and keeping the bot teams "in order" is no true disadvantage. Younger teams will benefit from each draftee, no matter if they draft on 1 or 96 ... and for longer existing teams the draft is harder. You are right, this suggestion is coming from my point of view, as someone who is shortly in the game. And yes, for me all draftees are great, they are my best players basically. But yeah thats why I said in the original post that it could help new team, like mine. For strong teams its probably no big deal.. You know, for a new team its kind of hard, its nice to beat the BOT team 130:0, but when you lose every game against human teams by 70 points, I can see how this can be demotivating for new players. I know it cant be changed so much that after a season or two a team would have a chance to beat someone 30 seasons in, but better players from the draft could help make the gap smaller and the losses not so devastating..  If the rating is reflecting players quality correctly, its for sure much better to get 3.5* draftee than 2.5-3* draftee. Especially if he has high talent, experience and some traits..
But after all, I dont know, maybe I was just super unlucky that a player I wanted the most was picked up by some BOT team randomly and this is in fact no big deal in the game |
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| posted: 2025-01-31 21:11:33 (ID: 100189012) Report Abuse | |
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I had an immediate thought when I read this:
Ethaziel wrote:
there was a 19y old, 4.5* talent, 3.5* rating player with 3 useful traits. ... and that thought was "well, this player probably was not very experienced and/or would have capped early on his physicals". It's very, very rare for a player to have three traits, that's right. And with the talent he would probably become a very good player. But in my experience all the players in this game are pretty balanced, meaning for this amount of upside it's highly likely to have a downside somewhere... and this could be, in your case, comparably low physical abilities. Which will be crucial once you get to compete with the really good teams. Way more crucial than three traits could make up for. E. g. I have a player in the Youth Academy with 3 traits (Ball stripper, Track Star, Sure Tackler), Teamwork at 34, Intelligence at 37.4, projected to become a CB. Everything looks good so far, I'm pushing the physicals to see where they go... maybe we have a good player coming to the seniors there. But will he be great? No, because his talent is 2*. His non-physicals will cap 41.0, which is way too low to compete regularly with the big dogs. Another player that I bought on the transfer market was already very experienced (4* at 21yo), Track Star- and Sure Tackler-trait, 4* Talent... but soon after he joined the team he capped red on STR at 44.2 and on SPE at 41.2, AGI still uncapped at 38.1. So having had these experiences I'd think your guy would probably have been limited in some shape or form, too... but we'll never now. At least not as long as he does not pop up on the report of the Transfer Market Agent  |
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| posted: 2025-01-31 22:04:29 (ID: 100189013) Report Abuse | |
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Ethaziel wrote:
If the rating is reflecting players quality correctly, its for sure much better to get 3.5* draftee than 2.5-3* draftee. For a new team, it could be much better to get three 3* draftees than one superstar. But this is the never ending story of why some call American Football a team sport
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| posted: 2025-02-01 11:25:43 (ID: 100189017) Report Abuse | |
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pete wrote:
Ethaziel wrote:
If the rating is reflecting players quality correctly, its for sure much better to get 3.5* draftee than 2.5-3* draftee. For a new team, it could be much better to get three 3* draftees than one superstar. But this is the never ending story of why some call American Football a team sport
It probably would be better, but its also better to get 3 3.5* than 3 3* draftees  |
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| posted: 2025-02-01 11:39:23 (ID: 100189018) Report Abuse | |
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But it looks like the community is not too happy about this, so I guess its better to leave it as it is
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| posted: 2025-02-01 17:51:13 (ID: 100189026) Report Abuse | |
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For me it is not about happy, I just don't see the improvement (if there is such) worth the effort.
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| posted: 2025-02-02 09:33:15 (ID: 100189035) Report Abuse | |
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While agreeing with most of the above, personally I admit to being disappointed when someone that I consider a good pick goes to a Bot team. This was particularly true when I was starting out as it could make a big difference to my squad. Now it's less so for an individual of course but still it makes a difference for future years.
If I had my choice, I would definitely go for Bot teams picking after all player teams had picked their three rounds. My distant second choice would be drop them to the end of each round. Changing their picking algorithm is over-difficult for the results I think. |
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| posted: 2025-02-02 09:36:22 (ID: 100189036) Report Abuse | |
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It's also worth noting that I don't often get my preferred players picked by human teams so it's not always a huge advantage/disadvantage to teams to be in a high-bot league with respect to the draft because humans have such varied criteria for he players that they want to pick.
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| posted: 2025-02-02 09:55:34 (ID: 100189039) Report Abuse | |
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Chrill wrote:
I had an immediate thought when I read this: Ethaziel wrote:
there was a 19y old, 4.5* talent, 3.5* rating player with 3 useful traits. ... and that thought was "well, this player probably was not very experienced and/or would have capped early on his physicals". It's very, very rare for a player to have three traits, that's right. And with the talent he would probably become a very good player. But in my experience all the players in this game are pretty balanced, meaning for this amount of upside it's highly likely to have a downside somewhere... and this could be, in your case, comparably low physical abilities. Which will be crucial once you get to compete with the really good teams. Way more crucial than three traits could make up for. So having had these experiences I'd think your guy would probably have been limited in some shape or form, too... but we'll never now. At least not as long as he does not pop up on the report of the Transfer Market Agent Just checked him again for fun
19y, 3.5* rating, 4.5* talent, 3* exp (not the best, but still fine for a 19y old I guess), physicals 37/49/23, INT 37, TW 46 Has Ball Stripper, Long Reach, Track Star. Its possible that his STR is already capped on 37 for sure But if its not, I would say he looks pretty good
But whatever, this was not about one specific player, I just used him as an example |
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