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  Poll: Allow one manager to have more than one team - with no additional rules, deadline: 2025-05-31 20:50:41 , votes: 63
Yes, and if such a manager starts cheating, let it be
No, keep the policy of one manager one team rule kind of strict
Who cares ...
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pete
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posted: 2025-05-28 21:01:51 (ID: 100191449) Report Abuse
Tvllo wrote:
This season I win 10 of my 11 victory(in the next week I'm agaist a bot)agaist a bot team. This has not been a fun season.
At the moment we have 152 teams from all league 1.
I suggest to reduce the league 1 to 4 with a full roster of 128 teams and a single league 2 with 24 teams.
8 promotion from league 2 to league 1
8 relegated teams, 2 from each league, one per conference with playout between the 8 worst of each conference.
In RZA elite league the 4 best teams of each league 1.
New teams starting directly from league 2.
It could be a better advertising to see a game plenty of human teams.
I think it can be work.


I am sorry, but I am not buying this idea.

Where we come from:

8 Regions, each having one level1-league, two level2-leagues and so on.

We then intoduced Elite on top of it all

Afterwards we shrank down the pyramid structure, by introducing one level1-league, one level2-league and so on, per region.

Your sugguestion would break some initial rules I set to myself for structuring leagues.

One: the power of 2 for the number of regions
Another one: each regions works as every other one

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posted: 2025-05-28 21:17:31 (ID: 100191450) Report Abuse
I don't see a problem with a manager having a 2nd team, however, I don't think they should be allowed to compete in the same league. The only potential problem is if that manager is really good and gets two teams to Elite, then I can see a conflict. But even for a manager playing himself (if not a league game) it really won't hurt anything if they are in different leagues. You can argue perhaps Supercup, but that also should easily be able to be adjusted so that the two teams do not share a division.

It's really not a big deal, but I'd rather have a team in a division with a few 2nd teams from other managers than just playing bots for half my schedule. There's no player trade in game, so not like they can cheat to build a super roster from it. So why not? I'm sure there's something they can put in place to limit exploiting, but I'm not a programmer so I don't know.

I say put it in a trial run, see how it goes. If people find exploits and start cheating, you can address it then or roll back the rules to not allow for it anymore maybe?
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posted: 2025-05-28 21:25:54 (ID: 100191451) Report Abuse
Bleakardor wrote:
I say put it in a trial run, see how it goes. If people find exploits and start cheating, you can address it then or roll back the rules to not allow for it anymore maybe?


I can see some good trouble in this part. I mean, imagine we go this way and find something we cannot address. We decide to close the 2nd team ... what would be your take on such an action, if you were targeted by it, without doing anything wrong?
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posted: 2025-05-28 21:31:15 (ID: 100191452)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Bleakardor wrote:
I say put it in a trial run, see how it goes. If people find exploits and start cheating, you can address it then or roll back the rules to not allow for it anymore maybe?


I can see some good trouble in this part. I mean, imagine we go this way and find something we cannot address. We decide to close the 2nd team ... what would be your take on such an action, if you were targeted by it, without doing anything wrong?


I would probably be upset unless you gave me the option on which team to close unless I knew ahead of time it was a risk. Because that should clearly be made known as a possibility of happening before you ever create that 2nd team. If any of us make a 2nd team, we should be well aware that it's a trial/risky option that may not be a long term deal. But if I were a new manager and had no idea, then it happened, yeah, I'd probably be upset.

Last edited on 2025-05-28 21:32:36 by Bleakardor

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posted: 2025-05-28 21:36:25 (ID: 100191453) Report Abuse
Unsure how hard it would be but The Elite League could be removed?
This sends 4 teams per Region back to that Region.

Winners of each Region Play in a Champions League the year after.

Other than that...

I would like a 2nd team.

How could it work...

All 2nd teams have to be announced :

The HELP tab could have a '2nd teams option' that lists all the 2nd teams currently owned by 1 Owner. By having this option the RZA community could police the following rules themselves, flagging it to Pete if it is broken...

Rules

1. No transfers between same owner teams
2. Teams must play in a different Region
3. Anyone with a second team not declared will lose that team, and potentially both

Should by chance they play each other then so be it. Cant make everything fit and work perfectly.

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posted: 2025-05-29 12:30:33 (ID: 100191464) Report Abuse
Managing two teams means you have a guarantee buyer for any player from either team.

Then also one team could act as a feeder getting EXP and training before being sold back to the parent team.
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posted: 2025-05-29 12:41:45 (ID: 100191465) Report Abuse
gp-Rurik wrote:
Managing two teams means you have a guarantee buyer for any player from either team.

Then also one team could act as a feeder getting EXP and training before being sold back to the parent team.


Sure, there are potential downsides with any idea. But the plus point of second teams is that we'd probably have many fewer bot teams. On balance, I'd like to get rid of those bots, even if one or two managers cheat in the way you've laid out.
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posted: 2025-05-29 12:47:03 (ID: 100191466) Report Abuse
butchpt6 wrote:
Unsure how hard it would be but The Elite League could be removed?
This sends 4 teams per Region back to that Region.

Winners of each Region Play in a Champions League the year after.

Other than that...

I would like a 2nd team.

How could it work...

All 2nd teams have to be announced :

The HELP tab could have a '2nd teams option' that lists all the 2nd teams currently owned by 1 Owner. By having this option the RZA community could police the following rules themselves, flagging it to Pete if it is broken...

Rules

1. No transfers between same owner teams
2. Teams must play in a different Region
3. Anyone with a second team not declared will lose that team, and potentially both

Should by chance they play each other then so be it. Cant make everything fit and work perfectly.



I dont think you need to declare or report anything. Probably the most clear solution would be that from your manager account you now have, you create another team. Somewhere in the menu would be a new section for creating a second team and switching between those two teams. As result, you would be official manager of both teams. Everyone would clearly see and know you are the owner. It would also make it easier (imo) to code any automatic checks to control your two teams are not in the same league. Simple check if there already is the same manger would be enough to disable a league for example when you switch leagues during rollover.
Same goes for trading, you wouldnt be allowed to buy a player from your other team, which would be easier to block if you are the manager of both teams.

No need to make more accounts, it would be clear and visible for everyone and as I said I believe it would make those few important rules easy to control so it would still be a fair game for everyone.
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posted: 2025-05-29 13:38:52 (ID: 100191468)  Edits found: 3 Report Abuse
butchpt6 wrote:
Rules

1. No transfers between same owner teams
2. Teams must play in a different Region
3. Anyone with a second team not declared will lose that team, and potentially both

Should by chance they play each other then so be it. Cant make everything fit and work perfectly.



I like this idea restricting interactions between managers who are in control of two clubs. I'm re-branding (again) this season; so I could easily resurrect the Jarls in Scotland as they were based in Orkey.

I think the best way to manage the extra clubs is to first message Pete about your interest and have it approved so he can leverage the rules; everybody doesn't need to know whether a club is a second or not.

Another consideration is also preventing the clubs from using the FA market to bypass transfers between teams, so a manager won't be able to market free agents and then bought by their extra club.

PS: just thought of something; if a manager wants to create a second club, would they be able to use the same email address? That could help ease of access and possibly another feature where one can swap between clubs without signing in-and-out.

Last edited on 2025-05-29 13:53:56 by gp-Rurik

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posted: 2025-05-29 18:46:38 (ID: 100191479) Report Abuse
I voted against second teams but ive changed my mind.

Second teams should be allowed.

I'm even at the point they should be used however one likes. Maybe.

I certainly want a second team as I'd love to start a franchise with the extra knowledge I have now, without having to lose the one I've built up.

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